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Old 07-01-2012, 10:19 PM
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Hey guys I'm new to the site, I have a 98 hawk 21,xxx I just recently returned from deployment and I Charged and cranked up with no problems but when I shift to first with the clutch held in it dies. My stand is up and the light goes off when it is. I also tried to crank it in 1st and it turns but wont crank and rolls like I don't have the clutch in. Someone help please
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:23 PM
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it could be a faulty switch,first try and jump the wires,than see if it stays on.its a small possibility that the light still comes on and off,but not turning the switch off.
mine works,but the light doesnt.it works when it wants too.
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Old 07-02-2012, 01:36 AM
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Either side stand switch, or siezed clutch?
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:20 AM
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it probably the clutch plates are stuck.if you can bump it off with a rolling start and ride it some, the clutch may work it self loose.
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Old 07-02-2012, 06:06 AM
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It dies in first with the clutch in and a clunk and lurch forward like the clutch is not working? Or it dies electrically and the clutch itself seems to be disengaging?

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You gotta bleed the clutch since its hydraulic and the system is (obviously) comprimised. Just like bleeding brakes but more annoying since you are working only against a spring.

If you bump start it you have a huge chance of being on AFV since mahem will ensue. You will be powering forward with no clutch and little hope of avoid bodily injury.

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Old 07-02-2012, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by E.Marquez View Post
It dies in first with the clutch in and a clunk and lurch forward like the clutch is not working? Or it dies electrically and the clutch itself seems to be disengaging?
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:32 AM
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It does sound like the clutch plates are stuck.

I would first bleed the clutch system ( if it was me I would also remove the slave cylinder and clean it out real good).

Then fire the bike up and let it come up to temp, as the warm oil could help loosen things up. Then cycle the clutch lever a few times.

After that you can try putting it in gear and see what happens.
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Old 07-02-2012, 12:16 PM
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I wonder if the clutch slave cylinder isn't in need of a bleed. And I've seen a bent actuating rod cause that symptom.

Simpleton that I am, I was blessed that there are so few moving parts on this bike.
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Old 07-02-2012, 04:34 PM
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Just wanted to chime in as well, my family and I thank you for your service. You as well 8451 and all others that served our country.
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:16 PM
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Cool wanted to get an idea before i take it to a mechanic. Is it to complicated for me to do it myself (bleed clutch)? I have to jump start it since it's been sitting but after I crank it and let it run I pull in the clutch and tap for 1st and it dies, sorry I don't know the difference between electrical or if it's clutch. I just wanna ride lol also mentioned above how do I jump the wires or is that the best option? I'm at Fl Bliss El paso TX I'm working night shift welcoming the rest of my team home so that's why these responses are late but I assure everyone I appreciate every post thank you all and I'm proud to serve for folks like you guys
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Does it just die or jump forward and die?
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Old 07-02-2012, 10:50 PM
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To jump the wires:

Take the plug out of the kickstand
Bend a paper clip into a U
Place one end into green and white plug and the other into other green plug (you nay have to pull the wiring sleeve back to see the colors), make sure it stays or have someone hold it.
Start it and put it in gear and see what happens.

If nothing changes, your side stand switch is functioning properly and you can plug it back in. If it solves the problem, you can replace the female end of the plug or just permanently connect the green wires. This is not advised if you are one to ride away without checking your kickstand.
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:44 PM
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It jumps forward and dies
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:47 PM
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It jumps forward and dies
Then it is not electrical.

You need to bleed the clutch and like I said earlier, I would also remove the slave cylinder and clean it out real good before you bleed the system.
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Hey, is mrreal actually doing any of this stuff? I think its fully diagnosed.

Bleed the clutch then come back on & thank us.
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:20 AM
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Yea been waiting until the weekend to get some real time, I found that the clutch resorvoir did not have anything in it. Still carry on with a reg bleed right? I think I should be all set I'll thank you all now. Pre-shate you all thanks a million
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Regular bleed will do wonders to an empty clutch reservoir
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:46 PM
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It freakn worked!!!!!!!! Woo Hoo!!! Now I just have to take this dang mandatory refresher course in a few weeks and I am back in the saddle. Man I've been raving about this site all day to friends. Thanks all you guys, Happy and Safe riding
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