Poor Ben
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Poor Ben
WSBK has been incredible so far this season and Spies has been awesome when his pit crew doesn't F*** UP, it seems like he's on a win, crash or blow roller coaster. But the boy is certainly making his mark. So screw AMA/DMG I'm officially a WSBK junkie now!
I was happy to see (actually read) that Josh Hayes took it to everybody in Race 1 at Infineon, great to see the Suzuki streak end!
Also read something interesting about Casey Stoner, seems he runs almost no spin control on the rear of his Ducati, maybe Nicky's new crew chief will give that a try. It must be killing the Kid to not even be in the top ten!
OK race junkies your turn to chime in.
I was happy to see (actually read) that Josh Hayes took it to everybody in Race 1 at Infineon, great to see the Suzuki streak end!
Also read something interesting about Casey Stoner, seems he runs almost no spin control on the rear of his Ducati, maybe Nicky's new crew chief will give that a try. It must be killing the Kid to not even be in the top ten!
OK race junkies your turn to chime in.
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Well, it certainly hasn't been boring. (Somebody on this forum described Spies as boring.) Bad luck and some bad judgment have probably put Ben out of the championship, but his passes on Haslam and then Haga at Assen are two of the most incredible I have ever seen.
Spies is the fastest rider on the track, if not the most consistent.
Spies is the fastest rider on the track, if not the most consistent.
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I saw Hayes give riding lessons on Saturday at Sears Pt. ( I mean Infineon ). Was great to see. Won't divulge any other facts about that weekend till they're broadcast, for those who haven't heard yet.
Wish the DMG or somebody would just find a way to get most of the best riders in the same race. I think they should replace Daytona Sportbike with a spec bike series, like the new GP class. Also, I witnessed a pace car controlled race there this weekend. Three laps of the Daytona Sportbike race were run under yellow flag with the pace car leading while they mopped up the track after a spill, instead of just regridding. What a boring waste of time. I'd much rather have seen all 20 laps I'd paid to see run at speed. My 2 cents.
Wish the DMG or somebody would just find a way to get most of the best riders in the same race. I think they should replace Daytona Sportbike with a spec bike series, like the new GP class. Also, I witnessed a pace car controlled race there this weekend. Three laps of the Daytona Sportbike race were run under yellow flag with the pace car leading while they mopped up the track after a spill, instead of just regridding. What a boring waste of time. I'd much rather have seen all 20 laps I'd paid to see run at speed. My 2 cents.
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DMG sucks so far.
I don't know about Spies being the fastest, but he's awesome.
Haga used to screw up a lot but he's really gotten consistent. He learned a lot from crossing blades with Bayliss so much.
Love to see Nicky do better. He was awesome on the Honda v-twin. His style was the backing-it-in thing. You really can't do that on these bikes & be fast. His time may have passed. If he can ever learn to ride with all the traction control gadgetry he'll be a winner again.
I don't know about Spies being the fastest, but he's awesome.
Haga used to screw up a lot but he's really gotten consistent. He learned a lot from crossing blades with Bayliss so much.
Love to see Nicky do better. He was awesome on the Honda v-twin. His style was the backing-it-in thing. You really can't do that on these bikes & be fast. His time may have passed. If he can ever learn to ride with all the traction control gadgetry he'll be a winner again.
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Have to agree with the comments about WSBK. It's one of the few things to look forward to in an otherwise suck year. There is enough competition, what with the new teams and new bikes to make even battles at mid pack worth watching.
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moto gp is no fun when lil' squirt Pedrosa is on the Podium. Long live Hayden! He'll be back........i hope..
The best days of WSBK was when Colin edwards rocked the Honda..i still watch that on my VHS machine sometimes....
The best days of WSBK was when Colin edwards rocked the Honda..i still watch that on my VHS machine sometimes....
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WSBK has been awesome ... haga's put together a great year so far but in the back of his mind i'd bet he's as happy as a clam ben has had some bad luck. imo ben is the better rider ( and a few years younger 
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Ben will get it worked out, can't expect him to win the championship his 1st year. But WOW, is Haga ever on fire.
As for Nicky, as much as I love him (figuratively speaking of course
), if he can't get out of the back of the pack by the end of this season, I think he should go back to World Superbike. The 800's just don't seem to be working for him.
Wouldn't it be nice if Honda brought back an updated version of the RC51, since the CBR's are trailing almost everyone else.
As for Nicky, as much as I love him (figuratively speaking of course
), if he can't get out of the back of the pack by the end of this season, I think he should go back to World Superbike. The 800's just don't seem to be working for him. Wouldn't it be nice if Honda brought back an updated version of the RC51, since the CBR's are trailing almost everyone else.
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Check the WSBK results. The Hondas have been consistently running near the front in the past few races.
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My 2cents, Yes Haga is good but remember those Ducati's are sporting 1200cc's (not 1098 as the name would imply) it's kinda like the Buell's in Daytona Sportbike, or the Aprilla's.
As far as the Honda's..what gives how can they be reasonably competative in WSBK and backmarkers in AMA!? I've posed this question before, what does Ronald Ten Kate know that Ray Plumb and crew don't.
A couple of years back when AHM was running their "kit" bike I wasn't surprized they were also rans (No HRC involvlement) and maybe that's still the case. Anybody know any facts on the situation?
As far as the Honda's..what gives how can they be reasonably competative in WSBK and backmarkers in AMA!? I've posed this question before, what does Ronald Ten Kate know that Ray Plumb and crew don't.
A couple of years back when AHM was running their "kit" bike I wasn't surprized they were also rans (No HRC involvlement) and maybe that's still the case. Anybody know any facts on the situation?
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It's good to see some camraderie in WSBK. Too bad MotoGP is full of prima donnas with walls seperating "team mates" in pit garages and not sharing any data with one another.
In the "olden" times when I was racing we shared everything and left it up to talent and racecraft to determine the outcome.
In the "olden" times when I was racing we shared everything and left it up to talent and racecraft to determine the outcome.
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******* Fabrizio...
... loses his head with a banzai move up the inside on lap ******* 3 and spears Ben...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVXeva8fmfU
just coincidence that he's Haga's teamate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVXeva8fmfU
just coincidence that he's Haga's teamate?
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who could understand what they were saying. I like that he was very apologetic, but that doesn't put either bike back on the track. It appears that there wasn't a whole lot that he could do with how late he grabbed the brakes. He passed P2 like he was standing still. Dumb, but polite.
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Except at least Fabrizio took out his teammate's rival for the championship. Pedrosa nearly kept his teammate from winning the title.
Stupid move. I would not have been nearly as nice as Ben was. Not nearly.
Stupid move. I would not have been nearly as nice as Ben was. Not nearly.
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I saw that bonehead move on tv this past Sunday. I'll give Fabrizio credit for the way he handled it, and it shows how much more camraderie there is in WSBK than MotoGP. I can't tell about AMA/DMG cause I don't watch it anymore and from what I read about mid Ohio neither does anyone else especially spectators.
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I don't know if any of you saw the beginning of race 2, but they shawed Fabrizio in his pit, holding a sign that said "Ben, I Love You". I think he knew right away he fucked up.....At least that was classy of him....
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