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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Say Hello to The World's Most Advanced Electric Motorcycle

http://gizmodo.com/5559442/say-hello...ric-motorcycle

"When you have 10x the battery power of a Prius and 2.5x the torque of a Ducati it's easy to see why."

I'd rid one how about you guys?!?!
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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I'd miss the thump!
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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oh whoa, has that already been on isle of man tt yet or is it set to debut?
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thetophatflash
I'd miss the thump!
Put a baseball card in the spokes! I'll take one as soon as they are a viable option for me! Cost and range are my only concerns right now.
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nothing
oh whoa, has that already been on isle of man tt yet or is it set to debut?
If I recall correctly it did, and failed to finish, another team with a GSXR framed electric bike won (and the next electric race in California, same reason).

edit: yep: http://www.motoczysz.com/club/
"Race Day (only minutes later)
I don’t even know where but we experienced another motor failer and just like that our race was over…back to the drawing board."

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Old Jun 9, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Seems like it would be awful hard on brakes...with no compression braking.

And I'd miss the "thump" as well. But that's what we'll all be riding if Barry Obama gets his way.
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Yeah, a performance motorcycle has to make cool noises.
Old Jun 9, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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For the electric RC planes, they actually have little sound systems to simulate real engine noise, which ends up sounding even better then the model gas counterparts because its the real audio from the real bird.

Just record this bike, pipe it through a good set of speakers and I'll go electric tomorrow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjou0zRJZBE
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I'd miss the thump too, but I'd love to tell the oil companies to suck it.
Old Jun 10, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jbaxx
Yeah, a performance motorcycle has to make cool noises.
Plus all the riders will die since loud pipes save lives.
Old Jun 16, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
Seems like it would be awful hard on brakes...with no compression braking.
Thats where the regenerative braking comes in.
Old Jun 20, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Yay - it's about time someone made an electric bike (and this includes the racers) that had something better in it than a golf cart motor.
Old Jun 23, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by inderocker
I'd miss the thump too, but I'd love to tell the oil companies to suck it.
+1
Old Jun 23, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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I wonder how the Roehr eSuperbike RR (http://www.roehrmotorcycles.com/ebike.html) will compete with the latest version of the E1pc from motoCzysz?

It's nice to see the USA at the shocking/bleeding edge of motorcycle development.

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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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This may change a few minds about what an electric moto can be. Still no engine noise but this is a real sportbike:

http://www.brammo.com/
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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I see these bikes for the time being as a souped up Vespa. People will dart about town on them but can't really go anywhere. Battery technology has a long way to go, the motor technology already exists in brushless motors.
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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With 17k on the hawk in the last couple years and 80% of that commuting... I'm really looking hard at one of those Brammo bikes! "Gas" all week for me would be $1 instead of $10, and it sure would be nice not to do oil changes on my commuter - ever again.

I think if one of these bikes goes close to main stream the battery technology will catch up VERY quickly.
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Looks like this is enough of a problem that the electric car industry has started to address it (along with your planes, mdbuehler)!

http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/14/f...ise-through-e/
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^^haha that's a funny link, I think I saw some speakers on a big fugly van once on youtube that did something similar. what we need are some noises from the jetson's, boop boop boop...ehh, can't phonetic that out
Old Oct 2, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RK1
Environmentally sound? That depends. Is the electric charge generated by solar panels? Fine. A coal burning power plant? What's the point?
A fine point indeed. Analogous to the argument regarding large carbon footprint from corn-derived ethanol.

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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RK1
Again, I'm not "against" electric bikes, but to be competitive, they need the same power to weight ratio as a internal combustion sport bike, the same tankful/charge range and take no longer to fully recharge than it takes to fill a fuel tank. I'm not holding my breath.

Environmentally sound? That depends. Is the electric charge generated by solar panels? Fine. A coal burning power plant? What's the point?
Actually, it really doesn't matter what generates the power... It's still more environmentally sound than a car or bike... The losses from that coal to the road is still smaller because of the scale of things...
Old Oct 3, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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Anything that converts one form of energy to another is loosing efficiency. Fuel to electricity = loss. Electricity to transmission lines = loss. Transformer to reduce voltage to usable levels = loss. battery charger to battery = loss.

I think the electric vehicles get the worst fuel mileage out there.

I don't even work for an oil company. They love electrics because they supply the fuel for that too!
Old Oct 3, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mhaisten
Anything that converts one form of energy to another is loosing efficiency. Fuel to electricity = loss. Electricity to transmission lines = loss. Transformer to reduce voltage to usable levels = loss. battery charger to battery = loss.

I think the electric vehicles get the worst fuel mileage out there.

I don't even work for an oil company. They love electrics because they supply the fuel for that too!
True... But consider the losses from crude oil to gasoline into it, and the energy consumed there, and it becomes a bit more even... Then factor in the environmental factor of it and it becomes even closer... Add the energy and exhaust for transporting the fuel to the customer... And keep adding a few more things into the equation...

At one point you will actually find that the electric vehicle is actually more efficient... Less losses from raw material to rubber on the road... It's been proven a few times over... A few times even by accident by the opposite camp...

The problem is that so far the other disadvantages, like low range and such, still makes the EV unfavourable for every use... For a daily driver for 90% of the people with less need for range, it is infact perfect...

Still doesn't mean I'll trade in my bike just yet...

Actually no, EV's doesn't get the worst fuel mileage... Hybrids take the crown for that by far... But they have other positive sides...

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Wait, am I understanding this correctly? Some of you are arguing that EV's are less efficient than gas-burning vehicles? I am not even close to a tree-hugger, but I've never heard that before, and have trouble believing it. Anybody have any evidence to back this up? I'd love to read it.
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I'm going to build a solar-powered electric scooter if I don't get a vintage racer this winter. I've seen plans on the Interwebs and it looks like fun. I think this would be a great alternative to bicycling for city riding to and from the grocery store.
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BTW: Peak oil redefines this argument. We can create electric in a lot of ways, but lots of people say we've reached peak oil. Of course, the "other ways" always rely on oil in terms of keeping the grid going and supplying the raw materials...
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Originally Posted by evines
Wait, am I understanding this correctly? Some of you are arguing that EV's are less efficient than gas-burning vehicles? I am not even close to a tree-hugger, but I've never heard that before, and have trouble believing it. Anybody have any evidence to back this up? I'd love to read it.
In developing the means to an end, this is necessarily what would happen (in the USA, where coal rules, the ultimate source of the electric power is a coal-fired power plant). Now, I'm inclined to believe one leaves a smaller carbon footprint using an electric-powered vehicle. However, I play devil's advocate to show there are at least two sides to the story (the other side namely being the questionable/marginal benefit of switching to electric or ethanol energy today).

In general, I'm definitely in support of being green. I'm just waiting for more breakthroughs, which in turn will lower prices for then "older" green technology.
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