With deep low bass sound brrrrrrrrrr

 

Maybe Bose will build a motorcycle that plays recordings of any bike you like.

 

Hey Buk, I like this one better many more innovations and more original!!!

 

Eh, I wouldn't even bother, let them die off with their jackhammers vibrating them to hell, they are already obsolete anyway.

 

Jack, nice that you are standing behind your national bike, but I am very thankful to have my loud, brutish superhawk.

I dont think electric bikes are viable, and really, they mostly are burning fossil fuels that are burned in really dirty ways elsewhere to make like 10 times the electricity to pump it down the lines to the bike, which is also inefficient.

Not to mention the toxicity of the used battery after its spent. To me its like a 2 wheeled prius, and I wont be driving one of those either.

And I dont like walking with a gas can when stranded, but what are you gonna do with the disco-bike?

 

Hi,

oh yeah, thats a fantastic E-Bike. Like to ride on of this rockets. Peak torque 1150 Nm...!!!

Cheers Buk

 

Well Joe, my intervention had nothing to do with my nations pride, but, simply to show how evolution has brought us to tomorrows new technologie. Yes, electric power is part of the future, wether you like it or not.
Now, don't get me wrong, when I turn the throttle on my Hawk, it's still the best feeling ever.

You, as many others, have to realize, change is happening, and with every new technologie, we have to adapt. And with every new technologie, there will be new versions to improve it, rendering it more effecient, just like everything else.

The wallet is what determines which way you go. You live in a counrty where you benefit from cheap gas prices, so, by default, changing to new technologies, at a much greater price, is unviable to you. Understandably, unless you're a tree hugger. And, on this forum, I doubt there is anyone like that. We are the complete opposite of that

The morning you will wake up, and the gallon of gas in the US will be at 6-8$, like most of us in other countries, you will start to look at electric powered vehicules, and say ' That may not be as bad as I thought'.

Perhaps producing such a vehicule, produces a much bigger ecological foot print, but over the years of use, that diminishes quite substantially, since, no more gas is being used, and batteries are recyclable. At least with hydro power. And if coal or other fuels are used to produce electricity, well, then we need to calculate which produces more emissions to travel a mile, gas or electricity. In the long run, where the money is mostly invested, is where the technologie to render it more ecological will prevail. Bottom line, no matter what any of us think if stupid or not.

 

Don't mistake this next discussion as supporting the over-hype of the Prius, because like you said there are a lot of poor side effects of hybrids (battery technology, complexity, the south park "smug" effect), but I don't think the car is terrible. Regenerative braking, for one, only benefits electrically powered vehicles. If I were a taxi company, I would seriously consider using a hybrid like a Prius in the city for small stop and go situations where you are picking up individual passengers. Can't used a motorcycle of bicycle for that. The Volt is also a great option that is basically an electric car with a gas generator. Sure, our U.S. electricity is pretty dirty, but if we just wait for it to get clean it ain't gonna happen.

Again, people I meet are in general pretty misinformed about energy consumption (I likely am as well), but continuing to try to just use explosions and adding processed corn to power our vehicles would be hard to explain if it weren't so ingrained in us.

 

Here is something to remind you all, you can still use conventional engines with few changes using hydrogen made out of guess what, "pure water"... oops.. now the Gov' will be after me well maybe one day the energy companies will find way to make money out of water, so they will not be against using this option...

 

Agree with the first point, but the kicker is that with the electrolysis process the "make out of" part currently takes quite a bit of energy (and most often uses fossil fuels to do this). It's that made verb that gets them every time...

 

That's where the energy companies need to put their investment money and get it from wind or solar instead of fossil fuels and we can get to keep our mighty noisy VTR's

 

Oh....Jack, THAT future. Ug. Yeah, I guess that is encroaching ominously. So yeah, with this, mad max only needs solar panels to operate. I guess riding is my main enjoyment so I dont think so globaly.

On the same lines. I just saw a show that was showing top fuel dragsters. They use 30 gallons of fuel for a 1/4 mile! (or something close) Really nauseated me. I use like 7 gallons in a 4 day race weekend..

I actually think electric smart car sized cars would be ideal for someone like me in the City. But yeah, they gotta make em cheaper. Then I'm in.

I saw a show where Jay Lenno drove his steam car around. Lets go back to that.

 

If electric were viable I would jump on one in a heartbeat; the performance potential is astounding. Perhaps with a paradigm shift in battery technology it could happen. I'm not holding my breath.
Until then I'm content with the wonderful sounding internal combustion engine and I have absolutely zero remorse about how much gas I burn.

 

A couple of years ago during Vintage Days at Mid-Ohio, they had an electric bike class on the road race track. When you're camping down there the sounds from the track can be pretty awesome, not to mention the smell of high test burning. Well, when there was a sudden silence for an extended period of time, we wandered over to the fence to see the electric bikes zooming around the track. Virtually silent except for a little bit of chain and the wheels on the track. It is definitely strange.

 

Almost like the old silent movies

 

Electric is cool and very well may be the future, but only after our electric grid is massively upgraded could we possibly make a real difference with electric vehicles. Imagine 50% of drivers in LA going home at night turning on the air conditioning and pluging in thier vehicles at the same time. Good luck with that.

 

Yeah they might have to, God forbid, build some nuclear power stations!

 

I live right down the street from these guys. I want to get a job there as an engineer so bad.

 

Funny you say that, a while back... 2005 or 06 can't recall exactly, I met the owner and his Lawyer at the NYC bike show and after several hours long discussion they offered me a job as an engineer, but I just got this new job as a project manager for IT company, so I gave up the idea, plus it meant moving across the country to Oregon which was doable at the time, but it was another consideration I had to take.
Sometimes I do think I did a mistake, but... you really never know what the future holds for you until you there

 

This bike looks like a lunch box, and for me nothing can give more pleasure than my engine's mélody !

 

 

238 Kg ite missa est !