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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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K+N AirFilter low RPM Stumble

I have a stock SuperHawk and put a Stage one Dynojet kit in it and ran great. Then Bought a K+N air filter and followed all the instructions and then had a low RPM stumble. Tried leaner and richer needle postion, richened the mixture screws-all with no real change. Carberation is not clean 1000-4000 RPM then cleans up after that. Any one else have this problem? am I needing a richer pilot jet? Any help is appreciated thanks Jon
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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What you "need" is to put the OEM filter back in. I had the same issue until I put the original filter back in.
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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It's a well known condition with K&N filters... Either spend a lot of time and money "fixing" it... Or stick the stock filter in there...
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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I was afraid of that, so putting in a set of 48 slow jets won't fix it? Thanks for the reply, Jon
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Do the research on this forum... Then make your decision...
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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I had the same issue -had to start over with the jetting starting with the main jet- I used the factory pro kit - took a lot of work and trying out the differant jets as per the instructions from factory pro - still working on the low end to fine tune it but the stumble and deceleration popping are all gone and the top end is way stronger.
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Anyone want to buy a K&N filter cheap? It has less than 2000 miles on it.
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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To me the VTR is about low end, sounds like you can't have your cake and eat it to so any one want to buy a K+N with less than 100 miles?....
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jonymo
To me the VTR is about low end, sounds like you can't have your cake and eat it to so any one want to buy a K+N with less than 100 miles?....
The old K&N filter saga still rears its ugly head.
Old Jul 24, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jonymo
To me the VTR is about low end, sounds like you can't have your cake and eat it to so any one want to buy a K+N with less than 100 miles?....
Unfortunately it seems the market is flooded with low mileage K&N filters... Wonder why...
Old Jul 27, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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So while waiting for a new OEM air filter to come in I continued with the rejet...
Dynojet main 180 front 185 rear
Dynojet stage one needle 5th clip
slow jet #48
fuel screw out 2 1/2 turns
Stock exhaust

Bike still has a slight stumble around 3500 RPM but much more improved, anyone want to comment on next possible step(other than sell the K+N)?try #50 slow jet? adjust mixture screw? Needle?
Thanks Jon
PS. Great website here and thanks for the help, I just downloaded the Shop manual.
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so does that mean at high elevations where the air is thin a k&n filter will help from running rich?
Old Jul 31, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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Had the same problem, put on stock filter and now runs better.
Old Aug 2, 2010 | 06:53 AM
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The #50 pilot jets were much too rich when I had the stock pipes and a K+N. I ended up with #48's, 1.5 turns out. There are a range of settings that work for VTR's but each bike seems to have its quirks. What helped me most was information from a guy who knew what he was doing when he had my bike on a dyno with an exhaust gas analyzer.
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