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Old 09-07-2014, 03:00 AM
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Ignition Advancer for 99 VTR

Hi everyone, I'm after an Ignition Advancer for my bike. I have uploaded a picture of the one fitted to my bike, which I believe is the oem one and wanted to check it is... Could someone confirm my one is the factory one? Also, does anyone have spare 4 degree one they would like to sell ?
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Old 09-07-2014, 02:51 PM
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Ok, the photo should show now, must have been too big first time....
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:24 PM
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Yours is a standard one
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Old 09-07-2014, 07:06 PM
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Here is a Factory Pro +4 Ignition Advancer
Notice the number 4 at about 7 o'clock, and also the zinc (gold) plating.
One more thing, since they are discontinued, good luck finding one.

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Old 09-07-2014, 07:27 PM
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Thought I was going to have some trouble finding one. Looks like a few websites still list them in stock though... Was hoping someone on the forum might have one kicking around, else she will be going back together with the standard one in place.
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sponger View Post
Thought I was going to have some trouble finding one. Looks like a few websites still list them in stock though... Was hoping someone on the forum might have one kicking around, else she will be going back together with the standard one in place.
Let us know how it works out when you order..
Yes it is still listed in a lot of online sites.... but as the aprt is no longer produced, long since gone from shelves and warehouses.. unless a shop has one coated in dust as New Old Stock...your not getting a new one...

I wish it weren't so... but it
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by E.Marquez View Post
unless a shop has one coated in dust as New Old Stock...your not getting a new one..
Notice the thick layer of dust where my fingers didn't touch on the package in my picture
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:49 PM
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Wondering what you guys make of this... One is obviously a new in the package +4 from Factory (doesn't have the "4" stamped on it by the way). The other is a used one I took off a bike I'm parting out & it has the "4" stamped on it. Does it matter that when I line up the teeth on the inside the outside teeth aren't in the same location? They're both "+4" I figured they'd be identical.

By the way Sponger not trying to jack your post I'll sell you the used one once I can confirm what they both are.
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Old 09-07-2014, 10:40 PM
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Hi captainchaos, it is a little strange that they don't line up. I've ordered one from a site that claims to have them, will be interesting to see what happens.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:48 AM
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They are available here I believe. Old stock.

Do they help at all? More power?
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes View Post
They are available here I believe. Old stock.

Do they help at all? More power?
Do you know of a shop or retailer that has one?

I ask because I tried many source I could find still listing it online, and all came back with not available.

I tried FP no old stock and declined to do another production run.

But if you know of a source, please post up

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Old 09-09-2014, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes View Post
They are available here I believe. Old stock.

Do they help at all? More power?
Are they available NOS in New Zealand? I ordered mine from starcycle.com..... Still no shipping confirmation though.
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Be aware that if you fit this advancer like I have your engine will sound different.

This is due to where the mixture is igniting due to the change in ignition advance.

I found out the hard way as this mod was done in conjunction with many others .

The change in sound was alarming, so I reinstalled the original which is different to the 4 degree and the engine sound returned to "normal"

Put the 4 degree back in and sound there again.

I am used to it now and have experienced no problems over the last 18 months.

Others on different forums have reported the same.

One thing for sure is that it livens the bike up very noticeably.

If I remember correctly mine is a factory pro one and my bike is an 05 model that is supposed to have a different advancer to earlier models but when you compare the standard advancer to the 4 degree the splines are different.

This has been debated many times, all I know is that the bike is stronger with the 4 degree in place.

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Does it ping or knock? Have to run premium I suppose.
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Old 09-09-2014, 01:08 PM
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Reply from starcycle.com

Hello,
Unfortunately we found that this particular rotor is out of stock and
has been discontinued. *We can get a RTR-HON-77-02 which is a 2 degree
rotor for the same application which would take about 4-5 business days
to get once you confirm if you would take the substitution or we can
issue a full refund. *We are sorry for the inconveinance and look
forward to hearing back from you on how to proceed with this order.
Thanks,
Chris

Guess I won't be getting this one...
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Originally Posted by captainchaos View Post
Wondering what you guys make of this... One is obviously a new in the package +4 from Factory (doesn't have the "4" stamped on it by the way). The other is a used one I took off a bike I'm parting out & it has the "4" stamped on it. Does it matter that when I line up the teeth on the inside the outside teeth aren't in the same location? They're both "+4" I figured they'd be identical.

By the way Sponger not trying to jack your post I'll sell you the used one once I can confirm what they both are.
Captain, if sponger isn't interested in the used one, I am if it turns out to be a plus 4.
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Jerryh,

We have 3 grades of fuel here in Oz,

91 with Ethanol which I never use in bikes, 95 premium and 98 premium.

My bike does not ping or suffer from per ignition and I always use 95 in the Storm.
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Originally Posted by VTR1000F View Post
Captain, if sponger isn't interested in the used one, I am if it turns out to be a plus 4.
Ok I'm just trying to find out what I've got. Probably have to post my question in a separate thread
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Originally Posted by kenmoore View Post
Jerryh,

We have 3 grades of fuel here in Oz,

91 with Ethanol which I never use in bikes, 95 premium and 98 premium.

My bike does not ping or suffer from per ignition and I always use 95 in the Storm.
Thanks! Trying to figure out how the engine sound is affected by advancing the timing
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So am I but others with them report the same, and have no problems.

They do make a difference to how the bike runs.

I read somewhere that later bikes have a different ignition program that advanced the ignition over the earlier ones.

I also ask the question , does that mean I have more than 4 degrees advance by fitting this rotor to my 2005 model.

I have asked this question before but it's never been answered.
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The fire points have been moved up 4 degrees from stock no matter which year you have. I have it on my '99 and love it.
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Did your engine sound different when you fitted it top hat?
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Kenmoore, I have had a +4 degree F.P. ignition advancer sitting on the shelf for a while, but haven't installed it. Was waiting on a new clutch. I'll be installing my new clutch in the next couple days, along with the +4 ignition advancer. I'll let you know if my engine sounds different. I'm expecting it too, since everyone I have talked to that has fitted the +4 ignition advancer has reported the same change in engine noise.

I'm still wondering if you have your ignition advanced 8 degrees now. Would be great to finally put this to rest! If new eyes are curious, click here.
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I will see if the guy sell them here has stock and how much. He used to run a dyno business but sold it all off a while back.

How much are/were they over there?
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Originally Posted by kenmoore View Post
Did your engine sound different when you fitted it top hat?
I don't recall noticing any change in sound, but she pulls a lot smoother from a stop.
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