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Old 10-16-2014, 10:25 AM
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Disclaimer: Not for the carbon averse....

Thought I would share some "home pictures" of the Dymag CA5 wheels all readied up to be installed over the winter. Front rotors are the famed Braketech CMCs (front wheel is stupid light!!!) and the rear is sporting a lightweight rear rotor that started life aboard a BSB Triumph Daytona 675. Tire valves are Ariete 90-degree aluminum valves in red......

Before someone pulls a "Captain Obvious", more bolts need to be added to secure the rotors (this is just a test fit), and those will be black titanium units that are presently doing duty on my current PVM rims....

So, coming soon to a VTR near me, he he..........

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Love those wheels!

I am envious! You lucky son of a...
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wheels are great, but the real score was the rotors as they are no longer being made......
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Speechless!!!,
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lucky for you they wouldn't work in Oz Ken, too light, they'd just float way "downunder"
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Mmmmmmmm......Unobtanium.....

That is off the charts exotic stuff. You think they will stand up to daily beatings? (assuming its a daily bike).

Do those rotors require specific pads I would imagine?
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Wow.
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:35 PM
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bike is a daily rider (or whenever I can get out) and the wheels are said to be tougher than anything made of aluminum or magnesium. As for the brake pads, I will be using what was recommended by Braketech (and was used by previous owner), Ferodo XRACs.....
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FWIW, here are the weight savings I was able to calculate from this set-up:
- rims: 15.5 lbs
- front rotors: 3 lb
- rear rotor: 1 lb

For a total of 19.5 lbs of spinning weight (now it's actually higher than that due to 520-pitch Al rear sprocket, titanium rotor bolts and ceramic hybrid bearings), or pretty well right at 50% reduction (with an even greater reduction in MOI due to weight distribution of rims). Handling and braking benefits aside, I have read that the rims alone produce a gain in acceleration that is roughly equivalent to 5+ extra hp......
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OMG. Picture one of my Labrador's with me holding a 16oz tenderloin in front of their nose.......Rare. That's some serious Drool material folks.
Nice.
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Those are worth more than what they're holding up... Amazing and beautiful!

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more than a stock VTR, agreed, but mine's not quite stock........ thankfully, I bought them used, so I didn't pay MSRP (which is about $6K).....
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Originally Posted by mikstr
pretty well right at 50% reduction (with an even greater reduction in MOI due to weight distribution of rims)
That is HUGE!
I'm green with envy, as the saying goes. No more teasing, next pic needs to be on the bike.
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Promise to post pics when they're on, but likely won't be until next spring.....
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Man I dont know how you even ride that thing around. It would be hard for me to put it out of my mind how nice all that stuff is.

Must also hugely improve suspension with SO much less unsprung wieght.
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NIIIICE!!

Why the Dymag vs the BST?
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supply issue: the Dymags were for sale (used) on eBay.... either would have been fine.....
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That is pure bike ****...
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WOW! Congrats man. This mod takes you VTR to "LEGENDARY" status.

Please report how much the handling changed. It should be mind blowing....
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After you put those on, you should find a stock yellow superhawk and compare. Assuming it was legal to import yellow into Canada...
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Yellow was legal in Canada, though curiously the metallic blue (as mine) apparently was not in the US....... funny that....... I wonder if the wacky religious right found it offensive??????

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Originally Posted by Killemall
WOW! Congrats man. This mod takes you VTR to "LEGENDARY" status.

Please report how much the handling changed. It should be mind blowing....
thanks. There will definitely be an improvement in all aspects of performance and handling, but truthfully my current magnesium PVM wheels already have me halfway between these and a stock VTR......
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Old 10-26-2014, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mikstr
thanks. There will definitely be an improvement in all aspects of performance and handling, but truthfully my current magnesium PVM wheels already have me halfway between these and a stock VTR......
You are really trying to squeeze every bit of performance out of the VTR .

Just to get an idea, when you mounted the PVM wheels how much the handling and acceleration improved? Did the bike feel significantly lighter in the quick left/right switches? Does it accelerate faster coming out of a turn?

It's an expensive mod, I just wonder if it pays back
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My goal is to build the ultimate street-going VTR (for my particular use; so I want it to handle well, stop on a dime, be comfortable, and have a strong and responsive mid-range). I have addressed all of the bike's known weaknesses (CCTs, R/R, brakes, cooling, suspension,....) as well as made it a better performer for the things I use it for (essentially sport-touring). There are certainly some other VTRs out there that are as good, or better, but I own this one and it's built for my preferences. For example, I could easily swap out a few parts (velocity stacks, for example) and get it to run stronger on top-end, but I very seldom run it over 7k rpm, so why bother? It does what I want it to do, and does it damn well at that

As for the effect of the PVMs, I have been running them for so long now that I can't make an objective comparison (especially as I never swap the stock wheels back on to see). However, as the PVMs are about 9 lbs lighter, they simply have to be an improvement (the physics dictate it be so).
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