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Old 03-22-2010, 10:51 PM
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carb sync - front cylinder fitting

So time for my first carb sync. Got everything i need, except the fitting the goes into the front cylinder. Where can i get one? (make one?)
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:50 AM
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It is a honda part # that a dealer will probably have to order. I can't seem to locate the # yet. I found it on this web site somewhere.
I'll try to find it later.
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I think this is it.

http://www.onlinemcparts.com/product...214mb0000.html

16214-MB0-000

fits a pile of different Hondas so local dealer should have it.

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Yes that is the part # here is the Ron Ayers fiche:
http://fiche.ronayers.com/Index.cfm/...LINDER_HEAD_FR

it's #7
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Awesome, thanks guys
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If you can get it at your local dealer, it should run only about $4. That'll save any shipping from internet orders.
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any suggestions on how to get that bolt out of the front cylinder. i cant get it to budge.
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Originally Posted by jay956 View Post
any suggestions on how to get that bolt out of the front cylinder. i cant get it to budge.
What are you using? I'd try a six point socket, not a twelve point. Breaker bar would be better than a ratchet. I'd apply short, sharp raps to the handle with a hammer or mallet.
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its a 4mm allen bolt, theres barely any room for my hands.
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Originally Posted by jay956 View Post
its a 4mm allen bolt, theres barely any room for my hands.
Didn't know that as my Ca. spec bike comes with the part installed already.

All I can think of is placing the allen head wrench in the bolt head and slipping a snug fitting piece of steel tubing over the shaft.

If that didn't move it I'd try an industrial grade penetrant like Kroil. Soak a cotton ball with it, squish down on the bolt, leave it for a while and try again.
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I put a piece of tubing on mine and screwed it out, but, to my surprise, it wasn't tight.
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the fitting that the tubing goes on isnt on the bike, its just a plug
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Originally Posted by jay956 View Post
the fitting that the tubing goes on isnt on the bike, its just a plug
well yeah. It is a little allen bolt. I forced a piece of tubing on it and it came right out. I fucked with it for quite a while before i did the tubing thing cause i couldn't get to it. A bitch of a place to get at.

If that doesn't work, cut an allen wrench end off an force it into some tubing or a small socket with the cut off allen in it.
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Could you get a 4mm. Allen key into the bolt head using long nosed pliers or a haemostat? How about a 1/4" drive ratchet, universal joint, extension and a 4mm. Allen socket?
It's been a while since I removed the one on my VTR and I've forgotten how I did it. I do recall having to replace the brass fitting after an eager mechanic decapitated it. I needed decent access to the area to remove the remains so I took off the gas tank and air box.
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Originally Posted by jay956 View Post
the fitting that the tubing goes on isnt on the bike, its just a plug
heh. In this case "tubing" means like a piece of pipe you snug over the butt end off the allen wrench for leverage.
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Can you install these and just leave them in?
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Originally Posted by dshakes View Post
Can you install these and just leave them in?
Yes, just add a piece of vacuum line with a straight fitting and plug so it's easy to get to the next time you want to sync your carbs. Then add a "T" fitting (which you also leave in and plug when you are done) to the line to the vacuum petcock and sync'ing becomes a 5min job.
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Originally Posted by 8541Hawk View Post
Yes, just add a piece of vacuum line with a straight fitting and plug so it's easy to get to the next time you want to sync your carbs. Then add a "T" fitting (which you also leave in and plug when you are done) to the line to the vacuum petcock and sync'ing becomes a 5min job.
Very nice!
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went out and got a allen socket that would fit it. i was able to fit it right in there, then i proceeded to strip the bolt. now i know it wasnt my tools that was the problem.
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Originally Posted by jay956 View Post
went out and got a allen socket that would fit it. i was able to fit it right in there, then i proceeded to strip the bolt. now i know it wasnt my tools that was the problem.
you mean you stripped the allen head so now you can't get it loose?
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exactly. i'm gonna go beat up the person who did this last.
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dam, that sucks. like someone put locktite on it and then cranked it in. Unbelievable. And mine was so loose i could have taken it out with my fingers.

You might have to use an easy out now.
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It's such a small diameter bolt that drilling it accurately in order to use an easy out would be difficult unless you removed the head. I'd be more inclined to remove anything that might catch fire or melt from the area, heat it with a head gun and try to loosen it with pliers. I don't know if you have enough room to slot it with a dremel and use a big screwdriver or impact driver. These situations are a huge PITA. I have to be in a state of inner peace to avoid making problems like this worse.
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If you pull the carbs and the remove the isolator boot from the front cyl. you should be able to get to it with no real issues.
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