Factory Honda paint??
03-13-2008, 06:01 PM
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I am contemplating painting the whole thing, or just the rear and a front fairing. The PO laid it down and scratched the rear a little and a few pieces do not match up just right.
03-14-2008, 02:04 PM
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Don't forget that the only part that is painted on the bike is the tank, everything else is molded-in color. Painting those parts never turns out well or looks right, in my opinion. For the cost/time/results I'd say you are better off buying new plastics from Honda, they aren't as salty as other models.
05-13-2008, 10:04 AM
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Don't forget that the only part that is painted on the bike is the tank, everything else is molded-in color. Painting those parts never turns out well or looks right, in my opinion. For the cost/time/results I'd say you are better off buying new plastics from Honda, they aren't as salty as other models.
05-13-2008, 11:46 AM
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ColorRite is great paint. Just finished painting a lower and hugger. Went on easy and looks great. It is a urethane based paint so no flex additive is needed. Dries very smooth. You can see the clear when it goes on, it hits the color coat and goes glass smooth. I was very impressed with the paint. You won't find a closer color match that you can do yourself.
05-13-2008, 04:52 PM
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Nope, not paint. The molded-in color process uses a thin film that is put into the mold before the plastic (ABS in this case) is injected in. The panel comes out of the mold with the color already on the outside, no painting involved.
05-13-2008, 11:05 PM
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05-14-2008, 07:43 AM
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SH fairings are painted. "molded-in" would mean the plastic is colored all the way through and the SH plastic is not. the prosess you described is more like a gelcoat but that is used for fiberglass parts not injection molding. the color coat on a SH is to thin to be gelcoated and molded-in color plastic dosent have high gloss like paint.
im not trying to come off like an *** but im 100% sure SH fairings are all painted.
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05-20-2008, 03:06 PM
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05-20-2008, 03:28 PM
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Dude no lie I walked out of SW about two hours ago and they matched my code
on the frame is says r-157 but after research and looking atmy VFR's which are R-157 the colors are a bit diffrent the Superhawk (mines an 02) was matched perfectly to "Winning RED Honda 02" r258/157"
80$ for two quarts and reducer!!! Deal!
on the frame is says r-157 but after research and looking atmy VFR's which are R-157 the colors are a bit diffrent the Superhawk (mines an 02) was matched perfectly to "Winning RED Honda 02" r258/157"
80$ for two quarts and reducer!!! Deal!
05-20-2008, 08:43 PM
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When I stripped red and yellow fairings a few years back I found that the red had two colors of primer and the yellow only had one, or something along those lines. If they're color molded how do they get that primer color molded in there too?
05-20-2008, 08:45 PM
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Here it is - Post #29...
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...st+color+paint
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...st+color+paint
05-22-2008, 08:05 AM
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i know from experiance. when i had my bike rejetted the shop cilpped the tail on something and took off a chunk of plastic. the plastic was black under the paint. if it was molded in it would be red all the way through.
05-22-2008, 10:38 AM
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...out...
05-22-2008, 11:09 AM
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Point of clarification here.... which may or may not extend this arguement... since I have some knowledge of the things being mentioned here....
I believe (and it's just my take from reading the posts) that Jamie is stating that the color is molded "onto" the part in a process called/similar to "In-Mold" decoration.... it's common practice in the manufacturing of products where you lay a very thin sheet of plastic film into the injection mold (held by vaccum) and then inject the plastic for the part behind it. It forms a part with the color/graphics that were printed on the film/sheet integrated into the part. You'll find this on cell phones (like the camoflage or decroative faceplates), and alot of other items similar in construction. It's a good way to add patterns and multi colors to parts without painting and masking. It's probably a bit more relaible color wise, as there shuoldn't be as much variance between the color in patches and parts as if you were mixing pigment into the plastic.
NOW... with that being said, in most cases, it's only on one side of the part, which means the backside of our panels should be black, as they are black ABS... unless they are laying two sheets of color in the mold, and injecting between them. I doubt that is happening as on a very complex shapes like our fairings, there may be some limitation to how much contour you can have, and not rip or stretch the film too much... which I beleive on the outside of our fairing is probably not a problem, but I can't see how they can "In-mold" decorate the inside over the bosses and rib features... these features would eliminate that process from being used.
So... my assumption... maybe the outside of the part is in-mold decorated, and they just lightly spray the inside to match... or they are painted both sides.
Continue fighting...
J.
I believe (and it's just my take from reading the posts) that Jamie is stating that the color is molded "onto" the part in a process called/similar to "In-Mold" decoration.... it's common practice in the manufacturing of products where you lay a very thin sheet of plastic film into the injection mold (held by vaccum) and then inject the plastic for the part behind it. It forms a part with the color/graphics that were printed on the film/sheet integrated into the part. You'll find this on cell phones (like the camoflage or decroative faceplates), and alot of other items similar in construction. It's a good way to add patterns and multi colors to parts without painting and masking. It's probably a bit more relaible color wise, as there shuoldn't be as much variance between the color in patches and parts as if you were mixing pigment into the plastic.
NOW... with that being said, in most cases, it's only on one side of the part, which means the backside of our panels should be black, as they are black ABS... unless they are laying two sheets of color in the mold, and injecting between them. I doubt that is happening as on a very complex shapes like our fairings, there may be some limitation to how much contour you can have, and not rip or stretch the film too much... which I beleive on the outside of our fairing is probably not a problem, but I can't see how they can "In-mold" decorate the inside over the bosses and rib features... these features would eliminate that process from being used.
So... my assumption... maybe the outside of the part is in-mold decorated, and they just lightly spray the inside to match... or they are painted both sides.
Continue fighting...
J.
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