Chi-Knee FOOt peg! An in depth look:
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So I ordered these foot pegs after seeing them on Fleabay and previously discussing them, and other options a few weeks ago.
So here they are, as they arrived from Hong Kong. This is what came with it: Attachment 24054 A closer look: Attachment 24055 More pictures, giving a better idea of what it is and how it does it: Attachment 24056 Attachment 24057 Attachment 24058 Attachment 24059 Attachment 24060 Heres the peg itself: Attachment 24061 Here seems to be some sort of plug, perhaps to hide the method of anchoring the piece for machine work? Still tasteful though, and well done: Attachment 24062 Some of the inside pivot parts had fairly sharp corners, so watch out! But that just means the tolerances were close and maybe could have used a light bead blast: Attachment 24063 Attachment 24064 Here are some pics from the install: Attachment 24065 May have to start another post I think I'm running out of space? :shock: |
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Ok here the continuation:
Attachment 24049 Attachment 24050 Attachment 24051 Attachment 24052 Attachment 24053 I think those tight, sharp corners had something to do with how well these mounted up! Very precise and snug, with little play. I was impressed. I would have liked to see though; a second, maybe longer steel key pin...if not for just a spare. I did stand on them, while the bike was on its stand. They seemed to hold my weight alright (I'm @190lbs), but there was some flex when I jumped. I think a steel plate in the middle part would feel more sturdy. But they seem to work as hoped! My knees feel less bent, and can almost touch the sliders. Feel from peg to shift lever is different, obviously, but I cannot really comment much more about the fit of things till I test ride it for an hour or so. (please warm weather, come back again!!) Was it worth it? So far yes. They look good, they feel nice. But to really know, I'll have to ride it. And maybe tweak the angle of the dangle. So stay tuned! LOL |
Wow looks great. So more leg room now. Like I said, not sure which way I would (will) put them but I like the knurled surface like my woodcraft race pegs.
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The hardware that comes with them appears stainless steel. I just wish that the middle bar thing was too...but time will tell how they hold up. If they fail, you can be sure I'll be on here posting a follow up LOL.
And yeah smokinjoe the fit and finish is excellent, it really is. They look twice the price...just wish I could actually test them! Curse NE weather!! I wanna live in Cali again! Wait, ...no I don't...LMFAO!! |
Man! Those look nice, well made.
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can you post the link where to purchase on ebay store? Looks good.
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Hey guys!
NOT gonna post a link...these are junk :(...they bent after just a few rides..grrrr...I'll post pics soon... Then I gotta figure out a way to either rebuild and weld...or just go the Buell peg route...stay tuned. |
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OK so here's the photos...
First, the clutch side peg: Attachment 23947 Then the brake side. Oddly though, its not as bent?: Attachment 23948 At first it looked the screw was bent: Attachment 23949 Attachment 23950 Attachment 23951 But then once I took everything out, I realized that the peg itself was bent...like, WTF? Really? Damn that's gotta be some cheap-azz aluminum! Take a look at the threads...its like the steel screw deformed the thread under weight: Attachment 23952 Attachment 23953 Attachment 23954 So now what? Find another peg with the same thread; maybe...well, most likely a longer (and higher strength) screw needed? This totally blows cause it looks freakin sweet...but its most likely salvageable with enough care and if I can convince the machinists at work to fab up another one... So there ya go. Chinese adjustable foot pegs? Failure! But my Chinese brake/clutch levers are holding up nicely ;) |
A longer bolt after retapping the thread? as it is only secured by what looks like half-an-inch into the footpeg.
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Well if they were mine I would have a set of pegs made up and have whatever the common metric size threads for that size hole tapped.
Then pick up so good quantity hardware to bolt it together. |
Bandit400man, pop off the outside cover so you can get a better idea of the guts of the peg. I wouldn't doubt its just a threaded collar inserted into the peg. Maybe theres alot of slop in there. If it was one solid piece of aluminum, I couldn't see how it would do that with the threads???
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Well, That is just grand.... I ordered two sets of these, for my brother, and father(Test RAT bikes)... Seeing this addition to the thread is poor..
I suspect -I will follow the suggestions of BETTER quality hardware... |
1971allchaos-LOL yeah sorry dude...somebody hada test them out, and at least I fessed up and posted the results...
I suspect if your lighter than I (@195lbs) you shouldn't have too much a problem. BUT, if you use longer hardware to begin with this may be avoided. Like Wicky said there's only about a 1/2" contact, if that. AND the threads are much deeper to take what looks like @ an 1" or so... Matt, I'll see if I can pop out that center cap now... |
you could tap it and helicoil it then, and use a longer bolt?
Originally Posted by Bandit400man
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Matt, I'll see if I can pop out that center cap now... nice. |
Dude great idea!
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Cant get that damn cap out without banging the shit outta it and causing a ruckus in my apartment LOL dude downstairs was like "who's knocking on the door?" lol
Another day... |
ah well, at least ya tried!
keep us posted |
These look very similar to the Cycle Pirates 360 pegs I have. More cost but I have about 4,000 mi. thus far and no problems, in case you decide to go a different route. I know others here use them as well, as stated in past threads and as you are probably already aware. Here is a pic from their web site.
CyclePirates.com - Specializing in Custom Sport Bikes, Parts, and Service |
Bandit, it really looks like you can just beef up that bolt to like a #8 and drill and rethread the hole & be back in business. I have had the same thing happen on my woodcrafts, albeit on a 100mph crash, but you can fix that.
Check out fastenal or mcmaster-carr for the bolts. Real class operations. Oh and again, you did this for the greater good, so thanks. Kind of like we all should share our vitories and defeats so we all learn. Like that time I swapped my "blown" motor but it turned out to be a tank of diesel making it smoke. Bent peg is easier. |
Oh jesus somkinjoe! That is crazy, how'd you wind up with diesel in the tank?! Wait, almost did that to my car, then thought, damn this nozzle is big! LOL
And Upland111, those do look exactly the same, albeit beefier...almost bought them till I realized I had to get the pegs separately...I'm just that cheap LOL. But, good news. Talked with the wonderful machinists here at work and they're gonna enlarge the thread from M8-1.25 to 1/4-28 I think...also install an 1-1/2" L screw to max out the thread engagement. And if you see that little boss on the peg that the thread goes into? He's gonna turn that down completely flat to give it more surface area to lock into place better, less chance of tilt. Either way if I find myself going to Daytona Beach for bike week this season, I'm bringing the old pegs as spares. I'll post follow up pics and all in a few days when its done...prolly Monday... |
No need to use the Saviours name in vain, I get the point.
Take pics of your mods. My buddy the machinist constantly finds stuff "wrong" with my bike & fixes it. Most recently my single sided swingarm linkage. |
Hi Banditman,
Originally Posted by Bandit400man
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So I ordered these foot pegs after seeing them on Fleabay and previously discussing them, and other options a few weeks ago. So here they are, as they arrived from Hong Kong.
I bought the vario footpegs for my Hawk in Germany at the company Thurn Motorsports for 115 € (156 US $). The vario foot pegs are eight way adjustable and have three different long side arms (hope, this is the right word for it :)) with 0.98, 1.18 and 1.97 inch. The quality is very high. Now the knee angle is very kompfortabel. Don't want to miss the vario foot pegs. Cheers Buk http://www.uni-due.de/~ydz250/Vario_...rio-Gelenk.jpg http://www.uni-due.de/~ydz250/Vario_...ariopegs_1.jpg http://www.uni-due.de/~ydz250/Vario_...ariopegs_2.jpg http://www.uni-due.de/~ydz250/Vario_...ariopegs_3.jpg |
Hey captain those do look real nice...even better than the cycle pirate ones...but come at a cost, like everything else...you get what you pay for Lol
BTW these cheapys from Asia only cost 50 bucks |
These are all nice foot pegs and I have a set myself that I don't use right now.
I don't know about you guy's, but they all have one common little issue, that did bothered me personally, and it could be just me... when you going for more than few hour trip, you do feel vibrations allot more without having the rubbers on the pegs and eventually it feels annoying to me... I would like to hear your take on this as well. |
NHSH, I'd agree on that. Had a set of cheap-o chinese anodized footpegs on mine for a while. Combat boots with thick treads were alright, but if I wore race boots or riding boots the thin sole made it pretty buzzy.
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Hmmmm...all good things to consider and look out for...
Maybe I could jam some gel hand grips on there LOL |
Just an FYI, regarding the vibration level. Personally I have had Zero problem with the Cycle Pirates, as I have stated in other threads. It was actually a nice surprise because I was thinking it could be an annoyance, but wasn't. I wear the Tourmaster Solution 2.0 Air boots, but the boots are nothing special regarding the soul, so far as I can tell.
Maybe it's the fact I am so distracted by the fun I am having while twisting the grip, that I don't notice it.... : ) |
Woops..... misspelled a word. That would be "SOLE", not "SOUL", the second one referring to what's inside us and our Superhawks...Please excuse
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Originally Posted by Upland111
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Woops..... misspelled a word. That would be "SOLE", not "SOUL", the second one referring to what's inside us and our Superhawks...Please excuse
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^Haha do that all the time!
So Mike the man machinist came thru for me....got some 1-1/2" L 1/4-28 thread screws from MSC and turned them on a lathe for a perfect fit. He even beveled the heads for a custom look, and gave a nice shoulder to the screw. Fits tight an snug, almost locks into place! Should have pics posted tonight if I have time...sitting in the free tax prep waiting room now...shoot me lol |
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I've had the MFW Vario adjustable pegs since at least 2008 with no issues (and I far outweigh you and stand on the pegs all the time). I made my own heel guards as I wear size 11+ boots. I shortened the thread brake actuator rod eliminating the lock nut but safety wiring the link, and extended the brake toe portion as the 1-inch extender is about 8 mm wide and moves out your boot on both pegs that amount.
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Skokievtr thats my next thing...fashion some sort of heel guard...Because that was a big problem BEFORE this and now even worse. Could you do some close up pics? More angles?
But anyways, as promised are the updated photos: Attachment 23933 The inside diameter was widened by 0.075"...aka not much but just enough: Attachment 23934 The foot peg bevel eliminated for a more solid contact: Attachment 23935 A closeup of the machine work on the screw itself: Attachment 23936 And assembled..partly LOL: Attachment 23937 Attachment 23938 I hope this setup works, I imagine it will be more than adequate. What I'm worried about now it the pivot joint itself failing at the point with the (now) least amount of thread. Daytona Bike Week will tell I suppose. But here's hopin! Cheers guys thanks for all the input! And of course I'll do ANOTHER follow up after my return In late March, tell you guys how they held up. |
Originally Posted by skokievtr
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I've had the MFW Vario adjustable pegs since at least 2008 with no issues (and I far outweigh you and stand on the pegs all the time). I made my own heel guards as I wear size 11+ boots. I shortened the thread brake actuator rod eliminating the lock nut but safety wiring the link, and extended the brake toe portion as the 1-inch extender is about 8 mm wide and moves out your boot on both pegs that amount.
There is a simple solution relatively easy and cheap. Get your self a CBR1000RR kick stand mounted instead, just the arm, works really well, it's one inch longer, flat wider base, tubular (which means not flexible as the stock) and lighter, you just have to shave a little material from the front stopper to get the correct position. Sorry for the :hijack: Bandit400man, just wanted to help ;) |
Hey, Bandit400.. Just got those peg sets in this morning.. When I came in from work.. Changed my shoes an went to Lowe's... 8m X1.25 X50m... Yeah I get back-get all the photos,put together, installed.. And get to the forum-To show off "THE FIX".. and well GRAND... second fiddle again..
Yeap I will have to ponder the $115.00 for the german produces- to the mere $35.00 that way spent..on the japan stuff.. |
Yeah it makes you think...the cheap levers I got proved be identical to their high priced counterparts...while the pegs proved otherwise.
But post pics of your set up! Any ideas of what to do with the U-joint attachment side? I'm thinking more pins than just one... And its all good NHSH...good idea too on the kickstand! |
Originally Posted by Bandit400man
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But post pics of your set up! Any ideas of what to do with the U-joint attachment side? I'm thinking more pins than just one...
4 roll-pin per side in 4 points, so you can still 360 position the pegs... A spot of blue -Lok-tite on all threads. |
Word man that's what I was thinkin...where'd you find roll pins that fit? Or do you have access to a machine shop an had em made? That's what I wanted to do, but their tiny an they already helped me out this month lol don't wanna push my luck
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Originally Posted by Bandit400man
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Skokievtr thats my next thing...fashion some sort of heel guard...Because that was a big problem BEFORE this and now even worse. Could you do some close up pics? More angles?
Originally Posted by NHSH
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I see from the pictures you have a little problem with the kick stand :) There is a simple solution relatively easy and cheap.
Get your self a CBR1000RR kick stand mounted instead, just the arm, works really well, it's one inch longer, flat wider base, tubular (which means not flexible as the stock) and lighter, you just have to shave a little material from the front stopper to get the correct position. Sorry for the :hijack: Bandit400man, just wanted to help ;) |
Originally Posted by skokievtr
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Very simple fab. .040" AL6061T6 cut, formed, edge & surface polished to shape; drill 4 holes & pop-rivet 2 .028" AL6061T6 top-hat brackets; & attach with SS hose clamps with HT wrap between pipe. Pics below of other simple things I've made (oil filter heat shield & oil cooler rock guard)
Block of wood only used to bring VTR up closer to vertical for photos but I appreciate the input. What year CBR1000RR and which "front stopper" do you mean, on the bracket bolted to the engine or on the arm itself? the year models that works for sure are 04 to 07 like the following: 06 07 CBR 1000 RR CBR1000 CBR1000RR Kickstand Sidestand Kick Stand Side | eBay not sure about other years... BTW, this particular price is a bit high, I got it for $19 on ebay including the whole assembly bracket and switch that you don't really need. |
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Originally Posted by NHSH
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I suppose I should take some photos, I will try to take some tonight and post again, you need to shave a little material at the point of contact between the arm and bracket in the down position, if this making sense... I shaved from the actual arm just to keep the option of going back to the stock kick stand, but after using the CBR kick stand, I would never go back to the stock!!
the year models that works for sure are 04 to 07 like the following: 06 07 CBR 1000 RR CBR1000 CBR1000RR Kickstand Sidestand Kick Stand Side | eBay not sure about other years... BTW, this particular price is a bit high, I got it for $19 on ebay including the whole assembly bracket and switch that you don't really need. |
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