Difference Between RC 51 and VTR
04-17-2009, 01:57 AM
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Difference Between RC 51 and VTR
Hello all,
I'm new to the site and I have a really simple question and looking for some help on the answer. Can anyone tell me what the specific differences are in the two bikes? I have been looking for parts (seat cowl) for my 05 RC51 and noticed that there were not too many places that have any. I know that the VTR is the same bike but I'm not sure if the pieces are compatible. Thanks in advance.
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I'm new to the site and I have a really simple question and looking for some help on the answer. Can anyone tell me what the specific differences are in the two bikes? I have been looking for parts (seat cowl) for my 05 RC51 and noticed that there were not too many places that have any. I know that the VTR is the same bike but I'm not sure if the pieces are compatible. Thanks in advance.
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"Make us choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong, and never to be contented with half truth when whole truth can be won. Endow us with courage that is born of loyalty to all that is noble and worthy, that scorns to compromise with vice and injustice and knows no fear when right and truth are in jeopardy."
04-17-2009, 03:50 AM
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I think a while ago someone came up with a list of about 100 pieces (mostly screws and fasteners) that where identical... Other than that all parts are different...
So no... It's not in any way "the same bike"...
So no... It's not in any way "the same bike"...
04-17-2009, 04:00 AM
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VTR have lots more in common with the Varadero than the RC-51, still they are faster than Varaderos
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04-17-2009, 05:17 AM
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Perhaps I should have compared the RC51 to the VTR1000SP2. "Thoughts"
"Make us choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong, and never to be contented with half truth when whole truth can be won. Endow us with courage that is born of loyalty to all that is noble and worthy, that scorns to compromise with vice and injustice and knows no fear when right and truth are in jeopardy."
"Make us choose the harder right instead of the easier wrong, and never to be contented with half truth when whole truth can be won. Endow us with courage that is born of loyalty to all that is noble and worthy, that scorns to compromise with vice and injustice and knows no fear when right and truth are in jeopardy."
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04-17-2009, 05:41 AM
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Have a look at the Speedzilla forums and the www.rc51.org site, you'll get a lot of infor there
04-17-2009, 09:26 AM
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04-17-2009, 10:03 AM
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Have a look at the Speedzilla forums and the www.rc51.org site, you'll get a lot of infor there
04-17-2009, 10:13 AM
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They didn't want our dumb yankee ***'s confusing the VTR1000F with the VTR1000R. That's why we got it as an RVT1000R.
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04-17-2009, 11:31 AM
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SP1 and SP2 are different bikes... or I should say the SP2 has some updates over the SP1
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04-17-2009, 12:43 PM
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The Super Hawk is the VTR1000F. Firestorm everywhere, except the USA.
The RC51-SP1 is the RVT1000R. AKA VTR1000-SP1
The RC51-SP2 is the RVT1000R2
The VTR1000F is a completely different motorcycle from the RVTs, altough both are 90 degree V-twins. The 1000F was an engine test platform for Honda's eventual RC51 race homologation, but the RC51 engine shares no common components.
The SP1 and SP2 have different chassis, swingarm, fork internals, throttle bodies, fuel injectors, heads, etc. but are essentially the same motorcycle.
The RC51-SP1 is the RVT1000R. AKA VTR1000-SP1
The RC51-SP2 is the RVT1000R2
The VTR1000F is a completely different motorcycle from the RVTs, altough both are 90 degree V-twins. The 1000F was an engine test platform for Honda's eventual RC51 race homologation, but the RC51 engine shares no common components.
The SP1 and SP2 have different chassis, swingarm, fork internals, throttle bodies, fuel injectors, heads, etc. but are essentially the same motorcycle.
08-21-2009, 05:48 AM
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08-21-2009, 06:27 AM
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It's better than the other suggestion a while back to include "unofficial" in the name though...
08-21-2009, 06:33 AM
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Ok, with that in mind we will then have to re-name the site to www.sc36.com as that is he internal model number and equivalent for a Superhawk/Firestorm/VTR1000F to the mis-used RC51 moniker...
It's better than the other suggestion a while back to include "unofficial" in the name though...
It's better than the other suggestion a while back to include "unofficial" in the name though...
08-21-2009, 06:51 AM
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Nah... I'm not the only one... If you try to buy stuff from Germany they all talk about their bikes and the bike parts by those numbers... Hit the german ebay and you won't find any CBR929 parts (for front end swap) but rather a lot of them for the SC44 or SC50 (954)...
08-21-2009, 06:55 AM
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That's cool and much more efficient than Honda CBR1000rr...
08-21-2009, 06:58 AM
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Oh and BTW the actual model code for the RC51 is actually SC45... Not RC51...
The name RC51 was invented by an American Honda employee when doing the press releases and he took the name from the RC45... According to some stories it created a big fuss in Japan when they found out... But then it was to late and the name stuck...
The name RC51 was invented by an American Honda employee when doing the press releases and he took the name from the RC45... According to some stories it created a big fuss in Japan when they found out... But then it was to late and the name stuck...
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