WTB 748s or RC51 and Decision
03-12-2008, 06:52 AM
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WTB 748s or RC51 and Decision
I am about to embark on another quest. After a couple of years on the VTR, I want to venture into something new. I have a good line on an RC51 or a 748s.
Spec is as follows:
2000 RC51 (Sp1) $6000
38,000 kms
Power commander
Full Hindle exhaust
Everything else is stock and in mint condition
2002 748s $8900
7800 kms
wave rotors
Everything else stock and in mint condition
Guy called and offered better deal and I said yes..arrange to pick it up on the 22nd
There are alot of better deals in the US but the thought of getting it through customs is daunting. example;
2004 RC51 SP2 ($6000)
N Hayden Edition
8000 Miles
Micron Exhaust, PCIII
Riding Gear, etc
located in Detroit ..... ARGHGHGHHG
Anyway, what do you guys think I should pick up and Does anyone here have an RC or Duc for sale in Canada?
Spec is as follows:
2000 RC51 (Sp1) $6000
38,000 kms
Power commander
Full Hindle exhaust
Everything else is stock and in mint condition
2002 748s $8900
7800 kms
wave rotors
Everything else stock and in mint condition
Guy called and offered better deal and I said yes..arrange to pick it up on the 22nd
There are alot of better deals in the US but the thought of getting it through customs is daunting. example;
2004 RC51 SP2 ($6000)
N Hayden Edition
8000 Miles
Micron Exhaust, PCIII
Riding Gear, etc
located in Detroit ..... ARGHGHGHHG
Anyway, what do you guys think I should pick up and Does anyone here have an RC or Duc for sale in Canada?
Last edited by calitoz; 03-12-2008 at 12:48 PM. Reason: Said yes to the 748s...see Post #13
03-12-2008, 06:55 AM
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Not sure if I can really contribute but I have an acquaintance who has a 748 and the ergos are hell for anything but track riding (mind you the RC is likely very close in that dept). Also, the Duc's maintenance costs (can you say Desmo?) are significant.
03-12-2008, 07:13 AM
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The cost of maintaning the DUC would make the RC an easy decision for me. Even though I LOVE and LUST after ducati's.
Also compared to the VTR the 748 is down on power, plus the "committed riding position" that the duc forces you into isnt comfy for long distance trips ie: trips over 100 miles.
Also compared to the VTR the 748 is down on power, plus the "committed riding position" that the duc forces you into isnt comfy for long distance trips ie: trips over 100 miles.
03-12-2008, 07:20 AM
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The 748 is down on power? I guess they must have made some big changes to the 749 then, because after seeing my 'hawk (see mods list) and my friends 749 Dark (stock) on a dyno, it still had about 5 hp over mine and about another 10-15 lbs/ft...
03-12-2008, 08:27 AM
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If you're a wrench and have time to do the maintenance then a 749 would rock, but if you want to be practical the RC51 wins hands down...as for a 748 it would be hard for me to go down on my torque from the Superchicken cuz that's were the fun is bro!
03-12-2008, 08:53 AM
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As pretty much everybody has said, if you can live with the ergos and don't mind the higher running costs then the 748 is a great little bike, but it will need meticulous servicing. Ducatis, when properly looked ater, are really not as unreliable as the reputation would suggest. Usually just minor electrical niggles (no worse than Honda reg/recs).
The RC51 is a lovely bike, but I'm told by owners that they are better as track bikes and need suspension work to be truly great on the road. Also, ridden hard they drink an absurd amount of fuel.
At risk of sounding like a shameless publicist, I would suggest you maybe take a look at the Aprilia RSV/R. It's a fantastic bike. I've owned 3 Aprilia 1000 twins and never had the slightest trouble in over 50,000 miles on them. Italian character but Japanese levels of reliability. You even get fantastic build and durability. Spare parts supply used to be a major hassle with Aprilia, but that situation is rapidly improving.
The RC51 is a lovely bike, but I'm told by owners that they are better as track bikes and need suspension work to be truly great on the road. Also, ridden hard they drink an absurd amount of fuel.
At risk of sounding like a shameless publicist, I would suggest you maybe take a look at the Aprilia RSV/R. It's a fantastic bike. I've owned 3 Aprilia 1000 twins and never had the slightest trouble in over 50,000 miles on them. Italian character but Japanese levels of reliability. You even get fantastic build and durability. Spare parts supply used to be a major hassle with Aprilia, but that situation is rapidly improving.
03-12-2008, 09:08 AM
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Over all Ducati is excellent motorcycle but just need more TLC -imho i do not think Duc is less reliable than Hond-Suz-Kaw all depend on how you take care of it and from reading to compare of 916, 996,998,999 final Pierre Terbalanche is the one w/less electrical dismal and have it own character (he did design SSA but go for GP type at last) Good luck and ride safe.
03-12-2008, 09:26 AM
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Prill's suggestion on the Aprilla was a good one cuz that bike is sweeeeet at 140+ HP and weighing in at around 400 lbs or 189 Kilos! Here's an example of a new 2007 on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...em120232698441
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...em120232698441
03-12-2008, 09:29 AM
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You know, I getting the same feel about the recomendations but so much want to love the Duc. It's like that hot blonde in the club that you pick up but damn the amount of maintenance. What? Lobster?...You're having meat and it will feel food. Practically, she ain't cooking dinner and you can't leave her alone for one second but you still want it. Just not all the time...But I do want to love it so much......
I know my way around the pit and have most of the tools but really dispise working on anything. I have my other VTR sitting here with parts all over awaiting complete SSS and frontend transplant....My head is with the RC but my heart...Lets check out that Brunette Aprilla
Thanks guys
I know my way around the pit and have most of the tools but really dispise working on anything. I have my other VTR sitting here with parts all over awaiting complete SSS and frontend transplant....My head is with the RC but my heart...Lets check out that Brunette Aprilla
Thanks guys
03-12-2008, 09:30 AM
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Prill's suggestion on the Aprilla was a good one cuz that bike is sweeeeet at 140+ HP and weighing in at around 400 lbs or 189 Kilos! Here's an example of a new 2007 on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...em120232698441
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2007-...em120232698441
03-12-2008, 09:36 AM
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I generally agree with the sentiments about the RC being easier to live with over the long haul, but I think the SP-1 had a very harsh fuel injection system, which was rectified on the SP-2. Don't know if anyone here knows firsthand? -or if the Power Commander would take care of that?
If it weren't for the import issues, I'd jump on the SP-2...
If it weren't for the import issues, I'd jump on the SP-2...
03-12-2008, 10:21 AM
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I vote for the SP2.
03-12-2008, 10:24 AM
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NEWSBREAK...
NEWSBREAK...
The guy with the 748s called me....I said Yes....I hope we'll be happy ever after....
The guy with the 748s called me....I said Yes....I hope we'll be happy ever after....
Last edited by calitoz; 03-12-2008 at 10:32 AM. Reason: shouldn't put the price
03-12-2008, 11:15 AM
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Max Power
71 KW @ 11000 rpm
Max Torque
73 Nm @ 9000 rpm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...ucati_748S.htm
The superhawk on the other hand has
Max Power
80.2 kW @ 9000 rpm (rear tyre 103.1 hp @ 8700 rpm)
Max Torque
97Nm @ 7000 rpm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...000f_%2005.htm
That puts the 748 10NM short of the superhawk in HP and 24NM short in the torque department.
Can any of our european friends convert these figures to non metric measurements for us? Buler, Buler
You had me wondering there MarineHawk, so I had to check it out.
As one member stated the Prillas are nice bikes too. I had a test ride a couple of years ago on the RSV Mille Factory. I was very impressed.
Edit: Best of luck with the new DUC! She is a beauty.
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03-12-2008, 11:17 AM
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03-12-2008, 02:26 PM
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Using the powers of the internet I see that the 748 has
Max Power
71 KW @ 11000 rpm
Max Torque
73 Nm @ 9000 rpm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...ucati_748S.htm
The superhawk on the other hand has
Max Power
80.2 kW @ 9000 rpm (rear tyre 103.1 hp @ 8700 rpm)
Max Torque
97Nm @ 7000 rpm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...000f_%2005.htm
That puts the 748 10NM short of the superhawk in HP and 24NM short in the torque department.
Can any of our european friends convert these figures to non metric measurements for us? Buler, Buler
You had me wondering there MarineHawk, so I had to check it out.
As one member stated the Prillas are nice bikes too. I had a test ride a couple of years ago on the RSV Mille Factory. I was very impressed.
Edit: Best of luck with the new DUC! She is a beauty.
Max Power
71 KW @ 11000 rpm
Max Torque
73 Nm @ 9000 rpm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...ucati_748S.htm
The superhawk on the other hand has
Max Power
80.2 kW @ 9000 rpm (rear tyre 103.1 hp @ 8700 rpm)
Max Torque
97Nm @ 7000 rpm
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...000f_%2005.htm
That puts the 748 10NM short of the superhawk in HP and 24NM short in the torque department.
Can any of our european friends convert these figures to non metric measurements for us? Buler, Buler
You had me wondering there MarineHawk, so I had to check it out.
As one member stated the Prillas are nice bikes too. I had a test ride a couple of years ago on the RSV Mille Factory. I was very impressed.
Edit: Best of luck with the new DUC! She is a beauty.
03-12-2008, 02:53 PM
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03-12-2008, 09:55 PM
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I've thought about doing the same. I love the v-twins, and it always comes down to either the RC or the 998 for me. I personally would lean towards the ducati. On one hand it is expensive, but on the other it's a ducati. I would love to own one, and will soon, lol. My 2 cents.
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