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Old May 20, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks, Cliby, this will help me move forward with my life. I have been all over this issue since buying the Superhawk and after my wreck in 07 my right is a mess. Your post helped me figure this out a bit and I printed it to light a fire under my attorney to get this lawsuit moving more quickly.

The list includes: 11 3/4 oz stainless bar ends, Heli's with stock weights/dampers installed, Oury jell grips, 10mm drop in the tubes - I envy you guys that have an hour to ride before you have problems. I get maybe 10-12 minutes. Throttlemeister is next if surgery doesn't come sooner.

At my neurology work up they did both arms. In my right the Doc said it takes 3.5X more electricity to fire my thumb than my pinkie. This was a real fun afternoon - two hours of being shocked. I about smacked the guy.
Old May 20, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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i have got to get this carpel tunnel thing checked out.
Old May 20, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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WRIST POSITIONING IS IMPORTANT, TRY & KEEP YOUR WRIST/HAND AS STRAIGHT AS POSSIBLE. I USE A THROTTLE BOSS, DEVICE THAT CLIPS AROUND TROTTLE GRIP, SEEMS TO HELP ME.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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nuhawk, any news on your carpel tunnel?

i saw my doc. wrist brace and a referral to a specialist was recommended. i'm still waiting for the referral(many months).i just got a wrist brace and have worn it to bed the last few nights. i figure it will take a long time to determine if the brace is helping.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Thanks for asking fp! Not much has changed although after nearly three years it is true that the condition is progressive. It extends to your elbows and shoulders. My hands are permanently changed. I got "da fat finger."

Because this is a public forum there are important, recent developments that I cannot talk about. The trial is April '10.

All the mods that I've done to the bike were about performance first but after the wreck they were positively required for me to ride the bike.

Through it all, I'm damn glad I wasn't on a CBR.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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The carpel tunnel surgery is not bad (I have not had it this is from friends) but it is 3 to 6 weeks recovery, so do it in the off season.
Old Dec 27, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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for surgery recovery, 3 to 6 weeks would be a long time for me to be unable to pick orders at work.

what's amazing is how one of my fingers falls asleep on one side, and the other is ok! crazy.

superbikemike, what part of ns are you from? have we run into each other on shf before?
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:13 AM
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update. i saw the neurologist(?) today. he determined i definitely have the carpel tunnel problem. he has recommended surgery for both of my wrists, at different times of course. i am surprised he went to the surgery recommmendation right away, and i asked him why. he commented that there is no point messing around with it, it's got to be done before the nerve damage worsens and i lose more use of my hands.

the dr also suggested this is affecting my sleep.

so, i feel better because we're making progress. i wish surgery wasn't the answer but at least i have AN answer now.
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Good luck with the surgery, let us know how this all turns out.
Old Jan 11, 2010 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by joedirt5
If you are wearing gloves leave the wrist strap as loose as possible to help promote blood flow.
Wow, carpal tunnel, surgery? Possibly, sure... But ill-fitting gloves were always the root of this problem for me. I had a pair that the padding would imperceptibly pinch my fingers and make my whole hand go to sleep... good gloves and a good set of grips make for a good formula...

*edit* Okay, before I get flamed to ****, I meant to say "This remedy is meant for OTHERS, not Nuhawk, who obviously has serious probs..."

This remedy worked for me, and carpal tunnel surgery may be in order if these things (along with some new bar ends and a throttle meister) don't work!

Sorry Nuhawk, didn't want you to think I was saying your injuries werent real...

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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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yup, surgery for me. it's not blood flow, it's the nerve getting pressured inside the carpel tunnel.
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[quote=finepooch;249720]

the dr also suggested this is affecting my sleep.

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Once the vision of this stupid ****** pulling out in front of you disappears (about 18 months - Greg's own timeline and it's true) then the other **** wakes you up. Every feel like you have a dentist drilling on your fingers at 0300? Yeah, it wakes you up. I'm going to pony up on the VFR tomorrow and go meet miss new britches the bad bitch that everybody raves about.

This will all be finished soon. The bastards will be sorry they waited.

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by supermarto
Wow, carpal tunnel, surgery? Possibly, sure... But ill-fitting gloves were always the root of this problem for me. I had a pair that the padding would imperceptibly pinch my fingers and make my whole hand go to sleep... good gloves and a good set of grips make for a good formula...

*edit* Okay, before I get flamed to ****, I meant to say "This remedy is meant for OTHERS, not Nuhawk, who obviously has serious probs..."

This remedy worked for me, and carpal tunnel surgery may be in order if these things (along with some new bar ends and a throttle meister) don't work!

Sorry Nuhawk, didn't want you to think I was saying your injuries werent real...

if your 4th digit(between middle and pinkie) fall asleep on one side but not the other, you prob have carpel tunnel.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:28 AM
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I've got a set of risers that will help for $50.00 + ship...PM me if you want them.
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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just wanted to put this reference here in the interest of helping those with hand problems.
http://www.ridersworkshop.com/Soft-Hands.pdf

this is the way I ride with OEM clip-ons up and back a little, peg rotated rear and up, and no wrist/carpal problems. This will cure problem because soft hands are the antithesis what causes these conditions.
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The soft hands have been discussed here widely. We're not kids just hanging on. The diagrams are cool fp but the fire in my hands are just the opposite. Middle finger, ring finger, pinkie are on fire. The others just go numb. Staying loose in the saddle is a part - important part of the ride and enjoyment of the motorcycle. Hanging on like a monkey on his last banana surely takes away from the experience.

I have some new physical therapy. "Pinkie" is keeping me on my toes as she is constantly under foot.
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Originally Posted by nuhawk
The soft hands have been discussed here widely. We're not kids just hanging on. The diagrams are cool fp but the fire in my hands are just the opposite. Middle finger, ring finger, pinkie are on fire. The others just go numb. Staying loose in the saddle is a part - important part of the ride and enjoyment of the motorcycle. Hanging on like a monkey on his last banana surely takes away from the experience.

I have some new physical therapy. "Pinkie" is keeping me on my toes as she is constantly under foot.
I know I'm not a kid just hanging on, but there may be some monkeys who could benefit from this advice.

My oldest daughter has carpal and rides my XR for work in the summer. The riding position is no weight on wrists/sitting upright. I suggested she relax her hands, but I knew this was a waste of words because she can't even relax when not riding. Tension becomes normal, acceptable and over time permanent.

If the advice doesn't apply to your circumstances, simply ignore it, but unless we share insights, we can't learn. Of course, as is the case with my daughter, you can lead a horse to water, but...............
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i had the same problem with my bike. I filled the clipons with lead fishing weights and it took almost all the vibrations out. I dont have any problems now. no noticeable. downside to added weight that i can tell. When i first got bike my hands would go to sleep at about 15 min. went on a 500 mile ride this summer after mod and hade no problem.
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Originally Posted by mcintiremustang
i had the same problem with my bike. I filled the clipons with lead fishing weights and it took almost all the vibrations out. I dont have any problems now. no noticeable. downside to added weight that i can tell. When i first got bike my hands would go to sleep at about 15 min. went on a 500 mile ride this summer after mod and hade no problem.
Welcome aboard.

yeah vibs are an issue, even when feather light on the grips. Not sure if hands going numb or sleeping is the same as carpal pain though, but imagine there is some crossover.

lead weight is a good idea esp if it cured the problem. Funny, here we are trying to cut weight and you're adding lead. haha. I wonder if sand could do the same? Probably lead would be better since it's impervious to moisture. I'll have to inject mine and try it. Thanks.
Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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I have a VistaCruise I'll let you have for $15 shipped to your door. My Throttlemeister helped mine, in combo w/ VFR bars.
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 04:26 AM
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the neurologist explained to me that hands falling asleep due to blood flow restriction and carpal tunnel are two diff things.

nuhawk, if your pinkie is causing you problems it isn't due to carpal tunnel. the nerve to the pinkie runs outside of the carpal tunnel.
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if you take out the stock dampner it makes it a whole lot easier i melted the lead and pored it in mine but was told you could use lead weights and silicone i dont know which one would work best
Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Get a vista cruise, you can ride with your hand open, & it activates with your thumb, unlike the retarded throttlemeister where you gotta take your hand off the bar, which is dangerous at best. (plus the vista cruise is 5 times cheaper)
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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update:
i saw the surgeon today. he tells me that after the surgery my hands will immediately cease falling asleep. i now have to book surgery.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by finepooch
update:
i saw the surgeon today. he tells me that after the surgery my hands will immediately cease falling asleep. i now have to book surgery.
my hands fall asleep while riding my bicycle, but they don't fall asleep while riding motorcycles. On the bicycle, there is constant weight on the bars because of the severe body angle, on the motorcycle, there is only periodic weight on the bars during countersteering inputs.

when I was in my 20s and 30s, I don't recall my hands going to sleep even on racing style bicycles, so i must be suffering from high birthday numbers.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nath981
my hands fall asleep while riding my bicycle, but they don't fall asleep while riding motorcycles. On the bicycle, there is constant weight on the bars because of the severe body angle, on the motorcycle, there is only periodic weight on the bars during countersteering inputs.

when I was in my 20s and 30s, I don't recall my hands going to sleep even on racing style bicycles, so i must be suffering from high birthday numbers.
+1 Nath. Same with me, my hands get numb riding straight and level on my mountain bike. And my birthday numbers aren't nearly as high as yours.
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
+1 Nath. Same with me, my hands get numb riding straight and level on my mountain bike. And my birthday numbers aren't nearly as high as yours.
well then, it might be from excessive solo sex.haha
Old Jul 21, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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I used to get numb fingers within 20ks after starting off, but after changing to a DM shock, and added a fork brace and gel grips its a different machine.

I hope that helps?

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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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a guy from UK (Newcastle) makes these, raises the bars 18mm and give relief to wrists and arms, no cable changes claimed, seen them on e-bay



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