Throttle Hand Going to sleep
05-17-2009, 03:12 PM
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05-17-2009, 04:29 PM
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by the cheap vista cruise type throttle lock. they still work great - not the prettiest option but being able to take your throttle hand off for even a few seconds is the best relief. You have to decide if its arm pump (which using your legs more and riding more, more upper body exercise will help) or carpal tunnel - which not much will help: keep your wrist from over extending - so a neutral position (straight line from elbow down back of hand), and not a tight grip. But if you have it, the only real 'fix' is surgery and even that isn't 100% success. get the vista cruise.
05-17-2009, 04:57 PM
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i think i have that carpal tunnel. my hands get sore and fall to sleep fast.
i have a throttle rocker that helps. it allows me to open my grip and relax my hand while keeping the throttle open.
i have a throttle rocker that helps. it allows me to open my grip and relax my hand while keeping the throttle open.
05-17-2009, 05:53 PM
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I have the fork tubes up 10mm, so this allowed me to raise the clip-ons up to the top of the fork tubes and pull them back till they were up against the tank at right before stops. This is much more relaxing on the wrists as it removes some of the down-forward awkward postion of the OEM postiton. I Like It!
05-17-2009, 06:08 PM
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I have carpel tunnel (Actually restriction of the blood vessels through the elbow joint... it causes the underside of my forearm to my pinky and ring finger to go numb after about hour of riding... I found switching to VFR bars helped alot... and now stop every hours just to stretch my hand a bit... just using my finger tips like Drew stated works... but when I reach this point, I start looking for a rest stop to take a break.
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05-17-2009, 08:11 PM
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If what you have is carpal tunnel the best thing I've found to help is wearing the wrist braces at night when sleeping. If you can keep from flaring it up there, you get a lot more peace to do the things you want to do the rest of the time. Wake up with one of the them cocked and it's going to bug you all day. (and maybe for days)
05-18-2009, 12:55 AM
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I started masturbating with my left hand more, and faster in general, and now have forearms like popeye the sailor... and no more numbness.
No its fairly common with the riding position of sportbikes in general.
I sometimes dont get it as much, not sure what varialbles at play.
When I do start getting blood restriction, I relax that hand and pull it down to my leg or lower for a second. I might be wrong, but I think skinny guys face this pulmonary constriction more than other better cusioned guys due to many of our major arm and shoulder veins have no protected covering for structural support and can get pinched closed much easier just by an ergonomic condition.
No its fairly common with the riding position of sportbikes in general.
I sometimes dont get it as much, not sure what varialbles at play.
When I do start getting blood restriction, I relax that hand and pull it down to my leg or lower for a second. I might be wrong, but I think skinny guys face this pulmonary constriction more than other better cusioned guys due to many of our major arm and shoulder veins have no protected covering for structural support and can get pinched closed much easier just by an ergonomic condition.
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05-18-2009, 06:08 AM
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slowhawk, you described my wrist problems to a "t". i can feel sharp pain(ligaments??? tendons???) in my wrist when i make certain action, like reaching for the mouse. that pain extends down through my fingers. when riding the whole works goes to sleep.
05-18-2009, 07:09 AM
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Finepooch and slowhawk that is a nerve in your elbow that is getting pinched. If you let it go untreated (surgery to move the nerve) it can cause permanant damage to the muscles in your hand/arm.
05-18-2009, 10:26 AM
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i mentioned it to my doctor about it and got the best canada's health care system could do: "sorry, you have to book another appoinment to talk about a second issue."
******** just want to charge the gov for a second visit.
******** just want to charge the gov for a second visit.
05-18-2009, 10:46 AM
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05-18-2009, 10:56 AM
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05-18-2009, 11:30 AM
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vibes
I used to suffer from this problem not just on sports bikes but any bike.What solved my probs was simple, heavy bar ends to soak up the vibes.Ican ride my vtr till the fuel runs out no probs no vibey hands.At the moment i am using suzuki gs500 bar ends and they work a treat worth a try its cheep and may work for you.....
05-18-2009, 12:19 PM
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heavy bars ends are awesome. they greatly reduce fatigue and also make your bike feel so much better. you have to be careful of speeding until you get used to your bike again because your sense of speed gets thrown off.
05-18-2009, 01:00 PM
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05-18-2009, 01:53 PM
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05-18-2009, 02:09 PM
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nice but pricey.
my friend made mine from a 1.25" scrap ss rod. made them 2" long and they worked great. charge: paid back from a favour i previously did for him.
btw, on my 05 gix this was one of my best mods.
my friend made mine from a 1.25" scrap ss rod. made them 2" long and they worked great. charge: paid back from a favour i previously did for him.
btw, on my 05 gix this was one of my best mods.
05-20-2009, 01:17 PM
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I looked into this a few years ago when it was bothering my worse than it is now - I type less now which helps a lot. Just to set a few things straight - this is my public service announcement because it can lead to long term disabilities and for bikers its terrible.
It is usually a nerve problem, not vascular. The nerve is getting pinched when it passes by or through a tight spot or bony prominence. Most common the wrist (the 'tunnel' in the palm right where hand meets arm) pinching the median nerve - numb usually the first 3 fingers and thumb side of the ring finger. Sometimes it in the elbow - the ulnar nerve and numbing the pinky and outer half of the ring finger. Sometimes a combination or somthing higher up the arm/neck. Usually the wrist is what bothers in the riding position.
A couple of important points: it can lead to permanent numbness and its very gradual, very subtle but eventually you'll find you have very little ability to feel using just your finger tips, very very late is actual weakness in the hand. Its like hearing loss in that slow insidious way and all of the sudden you are saying 'what' to everyone an not JUST your wife when they talk! but with this its you'll be dropping things and unable to thread a screw cause you have no feel. So if you notice it only riding, probably not much problem. If you have it at night to where you need to wear braces or 'shocking' tingles when you go to open a door ****, you should get it worked up properly.
It is more complicated (just like diagnosing a stumble at 5K) than that. The nerve entrapment could be from higher in the system, including at the neck - common in older men trying to raise their necks while bent over. Or anywhere in between. If its not worked up properly (nerve stimulation/conduction testing) it can be misdiagnosed, you can have classic carpal tunnel surgery and be no better off cause the problem is upstream. The surgery itself can be very effective and not too much down time.
If I were going to be evaluated I'd see either a hand specialist who does this; a neurologist or someone in physical medicine and rehabilitation who specializes in repetitive stress injury.
Oh and don't wear a watch under your cuff or glove - and not tight cuffs - only aggravates it.
It is usually a nerve problem, not vascular. The nerve is getting pinched when it passes by or through a tight spot or bony prominence. Most common the wrist (the 'tunnel' in the palm right where hand meets arm) pinching the median nerve - numb usually the first 3 fingers and thumb side of the ring finger. Sometimes it in the elbow - the ulnar nerve and numbing the pinky and outer half of the ring finger. Sometimes a combination or somthing higher up the arm/neck. Usually the wrist is what bothers in the riding position.
A couple of important points: it can lead to permanent numbness and its very gradual, very subtle but eventually you'll find you have very little ability to feel using just your finger tips, very very late is actual weakness in the hand. Its like hearing loss in that slow insidious way and all of the sudden you are saying 'what' to everyone an not JUST your wife when they talk! but with this its you'll be dropping things and unable to thread a screw cause you have no feel. So if you notice it only riding, probably not much problem. If you have it at night to where you need to wear braces or 'shocking' tingles when you go to open a door ****, you should get it worked up properly.
It is more complicated (just like diagnosing a stumble at 5K) than that. The nerve entrapment could be from higher in the system, including at the neck - common in older men trying to raise their necks while bent over. Or anywhere in between. If its not worked up properly (nerve stimulation/conduction testing) it can be misdiagnosed, you can have classic carpal tunnel surgery and be no better off cause the problem is upstream. The surgery itself can be very effective and not too much down time.
If I were going to be evaluated I'd see either a hand specialist who does this; a neurologist or someone in physical medicine and rehabilitation who specializes in repetitive stress injury.
Oh and don't wear a watch under your cuff or glove - and not tight cuffs - only aggravates it.
05-20-2009, 03:01 PM
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Don't want to hijack this thread, but https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...light=vfr+bars
will tell you most everything you need to know. I did mine based on the info here.
Specifically for the brake lines you will need to get longer lines. If you do not have stainless lines yet this would be a good time. I have not done my lines yet but plan on it soon. The work around is to disconnect the splitter and let it hang free. This will give you the extra play you need. My guess is that it is not a good permanent solution.
If you get the solid VFR750 bars - mine are '94, you will need to locate the odd bar ends. These clipons are not hollow and do not have dampeners. Probably can get OEM ok, but I've been looking for xheavy ends.
will tell you most everything you need to know. I did mine based on the info here.
Specifically for the brake lines you will need to get longer lines. If you do not have stainless lines yet this would be a good time. I have not done my lines yet but plan on it soon. The work around is to disconnect the splitter and let it hang free. This will give you the extra play you need. My guess is that it is not a good permanent solution.
If you get the solid VFR750 bars - mine are '94, you will need to locate the odd bar ends. These clipons are not hollow and do not have dampeners. Probably can get OEM ok, but I've been looking for xheavy ends.
05-20-2009, 03:11 PM
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Throttle lock will help, but if you can only last 45 miles, you need more than that.
Make sure you aren't putting weight on the arch of your hand between the thumb and forefinger. You should be able to grip the bars with just your fingers if you support your upper body with your thighs.
The Throttlemeister is a more expensive throttle lock ($130) but also gets you heavier bar ends which reduces vibration too.
How long have you been riding? It takes me a few hours before my hands start hurting without the throttle lock. With it, I can ride all day.
Make sure you aren't putting weight on the arch of your hand between the thumb and forefinger. You should be able to grip the bars with just your fingers if you support your upper body with your thighs.
The Throttlemeister is a more expensive throttle lock ($130) but also gets you heavier bar ends which reduces vibration too.
How long have you been riding? It takes me a few hours before my hands start hurting without the throttle lock. With it, I can ride all day.
