replaceable filter conversion/help needed
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replaceable filter conversion/help needed
starting a project to convert the stock air filter platfrom to except an automotive flat paper filter. found a couple filters that will work in the $6-8 price range. nedd a flat surface to lay the filter on. the filters have a nice rubber sealing edge. So far I've cut the stock platfrom down to a flat surface but need something the shape of a picture frame to lay the filter on. Have you guys got any ideas? This mod could benifit a lot of us because once converted we have a cheap sourse of replaceable filters from the auto parts store.
I know this has been done before.
Thanks Jeffers
I'm currently running a K&N that I've jetted for and am happy with but on my next shawk I'd like to use paper replaceable for better filtering.
I know this has been done before.
Thanks Jeffers
I'm currently running a K&N that I've jetted for and am happy with but on my next shawk I'd like to use paper replaceable for better filtering.
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Thanks, those are the pictures I remember.
I guess my best idea would be a 1" deep, aluminum box, pop riveted and sealed to the stock platform.
But I don't have a sheet metal bender or know where to get it done.
Then the filter would just slide in tightly and seal by itself.
I don't think I can do it without a sheet metal bender though.
Checked some electronic outlets to see if I might get lucky and find an chassis box that would fit an existing fram filter, but no luck yet.
Then I'd need to buy a nibbler to open the bottom.
~Jeffers
I guess my best idea would be a 1" deep, aluminum box, pop riveted and sealed to the stock platform.
But I don't have a sheet metal bender or know where to get it done.
Then the filter would just slide in tightly and seal by itself.
I don't think I can do it without a sheet metal bender though.
Checked some electronic outlets to see if I might get lucky and find an chassis box that would fit an existing fram filter, but no luck yet.
Then I'd need to buy a nibbler to open the bottom.
~Jeffers
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Re: replaceable filter conversion/help needed
Your right Bling, there isn't much room at all towards the back of the airbox.
I ended up removing the entire top of the platform and pop riveted sheet aluminum over the rear section. Then I put the filter in 'wide across' pleats with the air flow, like stock.
I used the same filter you did, (closest match)
Now all I have to do is RTV it to the platform.
Thanks for the help.
~Jeffers
I ended up removing the entire top of the platform and pop riveted sheet aluminum over the rear section. Then I put the filter in 'wide across' pleats with the air flow, like stock.
I used the same filter you did, (closest match)
Now all I have to do is RTV it to the platform.
Thanks for the help.
~Jeffers
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After the last prototype I decided the filter platform wasn't rigid enough after removing everything above the base of the stock plastic platform.
So I cut a sheet of aluminum to fit inside the platform, and pop riveted it together. I sealed it with RTV. Also since there isn't much room in there with the cover on, I wanted the pleats of the air filter to run paralle with air flow. The replacement filter is RTV'ed to the aluminum plate, but is also held in place by the baffle of the air box cover in front, and the sloping rear of the cover in back. So a carb backfire can't blow the filter off the plate. Here's how it turned out.
~Jeffers
So I cut a sheet of aluminum to fit inside the platform, and pop riveted it together. I sealed it with RTV. Also since there isn't much room in there with the cover on, I wanted the pleats of the air filter to run paralle with air flow. The replacement filter is RTV'ed to the aluminum plate, but is also held in place by the baffle of the air box cover in front, and the sloping rear of the cover in back. So a carb backfire can't blow the filter off the plate. Here's how it turned out.
~Jeffers
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It might take some time......but I think I'll look throught the FRAM filter book.......find the car it goes to......and off to the scrap yard to see it its adaptable via a little cutting and maybe a bit of fiber glass.
Looks easy engough!! LOL I remember the last time I said that
Mike
Looks easy engough!! LOL I remember the last time I said that
Mike
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OEM filter cost in Belgium or Germany around 23 Euro ....equals to 1,5 tank of petrol here!
Lucky you guys with your cheap petrol! I am literally pouring bucks into tank of my Storm! 1.22 Euro for 1 liter of 98!
Lucky you guys with your cheap petrol! I am literally pouring bucks into tank of my Storm! 1.22 Euro for 1 liter of 98!
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I know there's very little room height wise between the platformand air box cover.
And that's with everthing above flush removed from the platform.
Let us know what you come up with.
~Jeffers
And that's with everthing above flush removed from the platform.
Let us know what you come up with.
~Jeffers
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$5.56 per gallon of gas?! $17.23 to fill up a bike? Yikes! That's a LOT for 140 miles of driving! Wow.
My Firehawk is a 16.1 gallon tank. That'd be $89.50 to fill up! I'll stop complaining about my $38.00 thanks very much! Wow.
Makes me want to go nuke some country and hold 'em up for their oil.
My Firehawk is a 16.1 gallon tank. That'd be $89.50 to fill up! I'll stop complaining about my $38.00 thanks very much! Wow.
Makes me want to go nuke some country and hold 'em up for their oil.
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Last night I got out a tape measure and a beer. Next was a razor blade. the Bottom ridge got trimmed off the filter. Measure....still to tall. Open the ever expanding filter hole.......incert filter from the bottom. Fits snug! Measure height... . I'll fit !!! Drink beer !! WOOOHOOO!!! Make bracket from sheet metal with edges rolled for added strenght to hold filter in place. Open 2nd beer. Apply RTV between orange upper on filter and bottom of filter plate. Rivet in place with 5 rivets. Replace cover. It fits!! Finish 2nd beer....tunes cranked.
$7 for filter
$3 for RTV
$3 for beer
free sheet metal scrap
Metalica cranked while admiring your work......priceless!!
Mike
$7 for filter
$3 for RTV
$3 for beer
free sheet metal scrap
Metalica cranked while admiring your work......priceless!!
Mike
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****, I never thought of inserting the filter from the bottom.
Sounds like it would be easier to lock in place that way too.
Can you post a picture? Or just send me one at
jeff.gronert@xrxgsn.com
Thanks,
~Jeffers
Sounds like it would be easier to lock in place that way too.
Can you post a picture? Or just send me one at
jeff.gronert@xrxgsn.com
Thanks,
~Jeffers
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Re: replaceable filter conversion/help needed
Any advise or pointers for those of us that are going to do this mod this weekend.
$46 for a OEM replacement! Outragious.
$46 for a OEM replacement! Outragious.
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Update on the converted Fram filter:
3,000 miles on it now and it's working well.
From the way the bike runs I'd say the Fram is less restrictive than the stock (more capacity too).
Fram is a little more restrictive that the K&N though doesn't seem the breath as well wide open in 6th gear. The K&N giving a few more miles per hour at topend.
I do feel the paper Fram filters out smaller dirt than the oiled gauze K&N does.
Overall happy with the conversion.
~Jeffers
3,000 miles on it now and it's working well.
From the way the bike runs I'd say the Fram is less restrictive than the stock (more capacity too).
Fram is a little more restrictive that the K&N though doesn't seem the breath as well wide open in 6th gear. The K&N giving a few more miles per hour at topend.
I do feel the paper Fram filters out smaller dirt than the oiled gauze K&N does.
Overall happy with the conversion.
~Jeffers
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