View Poll Results: Ohlins H0204 or Penske 8983
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Ohlins or Penske
#2
correct ohlins?
Although I don't have the model number handy, the Ohlins that I have as well as other forum members has a remote resevoir that mounts on the left side of the rear subframe as opposed to the one in your thumbnail that is attached to the main body of the shock and therefore I am not sure it will fit-better check that out before buying that Ohlins. Mort
#3
pros and cons:
Ohlins: premium piece, remote preload adjuster/ two-way dampin adjustment only, no provision for ride height adjustment
Penske: great product, can be upgraded (to three-way adj), has ride height adjuster...
You can`t go wrong in either case, but neither gives it all to you, unfortunately.....
Ohlins: premium piece, remote preload adjuster/ two-way dampin adjustment only, no provision for ride height adjustment
Penske: great product, can be upgraded (to three-way adj), has ride height adjuster...
You can`t go wrong in either case, but neither gives it all to you, unfortunately.....
#5
I don't know how accurate that part number you listed is regarding the actual shock you are interested in but be aware that part# HO204 is for the RC51 not the Superhawk/Firestorm.
My vote is for the Penske, also for the reasons stated by Mikstr.
My vote is for the Penske, also for the reasons stated by Mikstr.
#6
pros and cons:
Ohlins: premium piece, remote preload adjuster/ two-way dampin adjustment only, no provision for ride height adjustment
Penske: great product, can be upgraded (to three-way adj), has ride height adjuster...
You can`t go wrong in either case, but neither gives it all to you, unfortunately.....
Ohlins: premium piece, remote preload adjuster/ two-way dampin adjustment only, no provision for ride height adjustment
Penske: great product, can be upgraded (to three-way adj), has ride height adjuster...
You can`t go wrong in either case, but neither gives it all to you, unfortunately.....
Gauge what properties you would prefer to have on your shock, you can't go wrong with either of them. So unless external ride height is a most, go with the cheapest one.
One thing I can say for sure, the ride will be completely transformed for the better especially in the high speed bump control i.e. those sharp edge bumps. If you were to get the Penske with 3 way control, you can adjust for this more than the Ohlins. 3 way compression shocks aren't cheap and you need to spend a lot of time trying different settings at different speeds.
#7
Not tone too picky bit changing ride and and preload are different. While sometimes they can result in kind of a similar result you get many unintended consequences.
Last edited by cliby; 02-24-2011 at 06:07 PM.
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#11
I agree with you on that, Jamie. I have heard a fair amount of stories within the motorcycle industry that new Ohlins shocks out-of-the-box can require internal re-valving to work correctly. Out-of-the-box, new Penske shocks are typically spot-on, i.e. install-and-ride.
#12
Be careful on that one, only the shocks bought directly from Penske will be valved to your specific application. As a general rule, all aftermarket shocks need revalved to match the rider. Most people don't know this.
#14
#15
I knew Fox was like that with "one-valving-fits all" - that is why I had Traxxion Dynamics revalve my Twin-Clicker shock specifically for me - and, like I said above, I had heard Ohlins was the same with the "one-valving-fits-all", so, yeah, I guess that makes sense with Penske too. One note: You might not have to order direct from Penske though, I believe when you order a Penske from Traxxion Dynamics they valve it specifically for you. There could be other suspension specilaist companies that offer that service too.
#16
Same goes for a shock bought directly from Öhlins, it will be valved for your specific weight... So in that respect, I see no difference between them... And as far as customer service, I have only good things to say about Öhlins, never dealt with Penske, so I can't comment on that...
#17
I guess it depends WHO you buy the new shock from. Ordering direct from a suspension manufacturer, I can see you getting a shock that is customized for you. Buying from a mail order house or re-seller such as Parts Unlimited (who supplies dealers) where these companies KEEP INVENTORY I don't see them stocking, say, 4 different-valved-based-on-weight Ohlins shocks for a VTR...typically they will carry one shock for a "median rider" 160 lbs or so..they MAY change the spring to suit the rider's weight but I figure you will still get the "160 lb valving". I know THAT is how Fox worked...they had multiple part numbers for VTR shocks, for example...the shock body you got was the same regardless of part number; they just changed the spring per weight category/part number.
I know for a fact that most of Öhlins shocks are manufactured with 2 or 3 different valvings, that in theory should match a specified span of springs/weights... Mostly because the shock matched with different end pieces and springs can be fitted to more than one bike, so they already make them with more than one valving... And apart from that, if you buy directly from them or a certified service center, you get a custom valved one to your weight at no extra cost...
Online or whatever will be another thing entirely though... That way I'd say it's likely they will only have one "standard" offering in stock... Nothing odd with that...
#19
#20
BTW that particular Öhlins won't work... It has a fixed gas canister that will interfere with the mounting on a VTR... Plus, you might not like the forked mounts? That depends on how you build the linkage...
#24
About 8 or 9 years ago, I ordered a Penske shock for my VTR after I had wasted about 6 weeks waiting for an Ohlins from Steen Hansen, the Canadian distributor. I got the Penske within two weeks of it being ordered. It's been great. The last fluid change and re-pressurization cost $33 CDN. No parts have needed to be replaced and the shock hasn't leaked. While it doesn't have the remote hydraulic preload adjuster that the Ohlins has, preload is not hard to adjust and, if I'm going to be carrying a passenger, I've found that increasing low speed compression to the stiffest setting is sufficient.
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