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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 06:52 AM
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I'm in daytona beach FL
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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The superhawk is an amazing bike!
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 07:19 AM
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Congrats, I guess that's it then, no more DRZ... and welcome to the family, just another warning, once you fall in love it's hard to let go these are amazing bikes and they are way underrated especially in the states.
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Congrats, I guess that's it then, no more DRZ... and welcome to the family, just another warning, once you fall in love it's hard to let go these are amazing bikes and they are way underrated especially in the states.
Once I opened her up and hit some corners my mind was already made up, I checked all the plastics, none cracked or broken, no stress marks on the frame no evadence that it had been down, the manual, and auto has been chanced he showed me, the R/R hasn't been changed (I can do that) it's exactly what he said it is, and my god she is so beautiful! I was going to polish the frame but I like it the way it is.. I'm excited for it to warm up next next I'll be hitting some corners =D
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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Have a thorough check for filler behind the fairing just above the radiator cutouts ;-) Otherwise looks good though won't the matt black paint soak up the Florida sun in the summer!
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:45 AM
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That's a pretty good DIY paint job from the pics.

Look up Tweety's MOSFET R/R thread to get a handle on that . Nice bike!
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 19superchicken98
Once I opened her up and hit some corners my mind was already made up, I checked all the plastics, none cracked or broken, no stress marks on the frame no evadence that it had been down, the manual, and auto has been chanced he showed me, the R/R hasn't been changed (I can do that) it's exactly what he said it is, and my god she is so beautiful! I was going to polish the frame but I like it the way it is.. I'm excited for it to warm up next next I'll be hitting some corners =D
And start by yanking the illegal, unsafe and stupid *** drop-in HID bulb out of there, ASAP... Get a good quality H4 bulb and a relay harness or a HID projector retrofitted into the housing to get some real usable and safe lighting improvements...

At 8000K, that HID light has about 20% less usable (to the eyes) light than a 4200K HID bulb... Which means it gives you about twice as much actual usable light as an decent H4 bulb with a relay... If it wasn't for the fact that more than half of that is scattered around the tree tops somewhere, only serving the purpose to blind oncoming drivers...

So, right now, you are actually driving around with a "cool" headlight that gives you pretty much less visibility than the stock bulb and wiring harness, with more chance of being mowed down by an oncoming driver... Really Cool (TM)...

A standard H4 bulb on correct voltage, ie with a relay, produces ~1500 Lm of usable light... With the OEM reflector being correct for the bulb, say 80% of that is actually usable... Which means ~1200 Lm... Without a relay, with the poor stock wiring probably around 1000 Lm or so...

A 4200K HID bulb makes around ~3200 Lm, making it just more than twice than a H4 bulb... But that's only if it's in a proper reflector for the bulb... In the H4 reflector, an unshielded HID bulb projects less than a third of it's actual light in the correct position, where its usable... So, say about ~1000 Lm, same as the OEM H4 bulb and OEM wiring...

A 8000K HID bulb can produce ~2550 Lm, and a third of that makes about ~850 Lm, ie less than OEM...

An HID projector, with the correct reflector and lense to use the full output of the HID bulb, you are actually using up to 98% of the bulbs rated output... So with that, you get the "full" 2550 Lm if you choose 8000K, or the full 3200 Lm if you are less cool, like me...

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 7moore7
That's a pretty good DIY paint job from the pics.

Look up Tweety's MOSFET R/R thread to get a handle on that . Nice bike!
A shop did it, he had all the receipts (probably a low budet place cause there are minor defects that I noticed) but it's a bike... it doesn't need a 10k paint job that some people do on there busa's and gixxers lol
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:13 AM
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19Superchicken98, Please excuse Tweety, he is in rare form today. He is however the greatest electrical engineer on the forum, and I'm told his bark is worse than his bite but I'm not flying to Sweden to find out!
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tweety
And start by yanking the illegal, unsafe and stupid *** drop-in HID bulb out of there, ASAP... Get a good quality H4 bulb and a relay harness or a HID projector retrofitted into the housing to get some real usable and safe lighting improvements...

At 8000K, that HID light has about 20% less usable (to the eyes) light than a 4200K HID bulb... Which means it gives you about twice as much actual usable light as an decent H4 bulb with a relay... If it wasn't for the fact that more than half of that is scattered around the tree tops somewhere, only serving the purpose to blind oncoming drivers...

So, right now, you are actually driving around with a "cool" headlight that gives you pretty much less visibility than the stock bulb and wiring harness, with more chance of being mowed down by an oncoming driver... Really Cool (TM)...

A standard H4 bulb on correct voltage, ie with a relay, produces ~1500 Lm of usable light... With the OEM reflector being correct for the bulb, say 80% of that is actually usable... Which means ~1200 Lm... Without a relay, with the poor stock wiring probably around 1000 Lm or so...

A 4200K HID bulb makes around ~3200 Lm, making it just more than twice than a H4 bulb... But that's only if it's in a proper reflector for the bulb... In the H4 reflector, an unshielded HID bulb projects less than a third of it's actual light in the correct position, where its usable... So, say about ~1000 Lm, same as the OEM H4 bulb and OEM wiring...

A 8000K HID bulb can produce ~2550 Lm, and a third of that makes about ~850 Lm, ie less than OEM...

An HID projector, with the correct reflector and lense to use the full output of the HID bulb, you are actually using up to 98% of the bulbs rated output... So with that, you get the "full" 2550 Lm if you choose 8000K, or the full 3200 Lm if you are less cool, like me...
So can you put that in a retard understanding format? lol.
I felt like I was reading russian, SO I should get a "projector"?
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Get a projector (which is a project to install) OR an H4 bulb and do away with the HID and ballast. HID kits without projectors are are dangerous and worthless. I've not seen a single one with effective light, despite their owner's insistence that they do.

I've ripped them out of my car and my gf's car from PO, put in 100w harnasses with matching bulbs and the light quality is night and day.
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Or simpler:

HID without projector = negligent

H4 with relay = quality light
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 09:42 AM
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Is there a write up on how to do away with HID? I like the look but safty of me and drivers is more of a concern
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Originally Posted by 19superchicken98
Is there a write up on how to do away with HID? I like the look but safty of me and drivers is more of a concern
Here you go, this contains much of info' you need and some additional links you should check including feedback:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...version-27804/
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Not per se, but it's not too hard.

If you trace your light wires back, it will eventuall go to a 3 prong plug. This is the stock motorcycle h4 bulb plug. If you put an H4 bulb into that and put it into the housing, you're back to stock. All the other stuff is the HID kit.

Here's an example from Amazon:


If the kit has a relay (I think they all do?), you can use it to make the stock bulb brighter. The way the bike is wired up, the power from the battery doesn't all make it to the bulb, and a relay fixes this (connects the bulb directly to the battery). More on this if you're interested, but there are write-ups on that.
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You've got a one piece fiberglass upper on that bike??? Shakskinz?

I wonder why the PO would have changed that out if it hadn't been dropped?
the rear brake pedal is bent up. Whats with the oil on the header and the clutch cover?
Looks good though. Good trade i'd say.
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Whats with the oil on the header and the clutch cover?
Could be coolant too...
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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And I'd definitely check the fairing stay mount. Front of the frame, where the fairings mount to the bike.
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Originally Posted by matt365
You've got a one piece fiberglass upper on that bike??? Shakskinz?

I wonder why the PO would have changed that out if it hadn't been dropped?
the rear brake pedal is bent up. Whats with the oil on the header and the clutch cover?
Looks good though. Good trade i'd say.
And the foot peg slider missing...
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Originally Posted by matt365
You've got a one piece fiberglass upper on that bike??? Shakskinz?

I wonder why the PO would have changed that out if it hadn't been dropped?
the rear brake pedal is bent up. Whats with the oil on the header and the clutch cover?
Looks good though. Good trade i'd say.
I think its just the angle of the picture, I didn't notice it to be bent when I looked at it but good catch, I'll check it out when I get home, and the stains I wasn't to sure about, looked like he didn't use a funnel and it leaked and never wiped it off.
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sharkskinz, yes. RACE UPPER (VTR1000)
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sharkskinz, yes. RACE UPPER (VTR1000)
It's the street upper....it has a headlight
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Originally Posted by 8541Hawk
It's the street upper....it has a headlight
Clicked the wrong one
I want to get the "street lower" looks much nicer with that belly on there
Old Jan 23, 2013 | 11:14 AM
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Don't all VTR's have 1Peices? all the pics I see look like 1P
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The stock front fairing is made up of 7 pieces.

3 outer
2 inner
2 "ducts"

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if I bought this 1 PIECE STREET LOWER (VTR1000) does it screw on like a body kit for a car, or fiberglass in on? I guess I could do either, I would probably use bolts cause over time the fiberglass could crack.

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You'll need to fabricate mounting brackets if it doesn't come with them.
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I would really look into the other things before getting an expensive race lower... just sayin'.

And that wet spot on the exhaust header isn't from overfilling the crankcase.
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You guys are awesome!
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I would really look into the other things before getting an expensive race lower... just sayin'.

And that wet spot on the exhaust header isn't from overfilling the crankcase.
I was talking about the case where it says honda, I took those pics this morning, could be due from the morning? I don't know I never noticed it before, I'll inspect it when I get home

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