00SUPERHAWK

Ok so before everyone starts to hammer away at me, Yes I know there is a bunch of info about oil and filters on here.
I went to my local Wally World and they had filters, Bosh, Purolator and Fram (no, no). But no more Super Tech. And prices were ok $3-$11.
BUT they had no oil I needed. All the synthetic oils they had in stock 10w30 or 10w40 was Energy Conserving. Also non were the API SJ grade. They all had API SN.
Not sure if SN is a higher grade then SJ but didnt want to take a chance and put it in the bike and have issues with the clutch.

SO I didnt get a thing. Instead I went to my local Honda dealer and got RAPED for 4qts of Mobil 1 10w40 "Bike Oil" and a tiny little filter. $60+ bucks for those 5 items. HOLY CRAP!!!!!

So I guess I need to find out if any of the 10w30 to 15w50 with the API SN grade will be ok to run in our bikes, so I dont get raped again in 3k miles.

7moore7

If wal-mart doesn't have the oil/filter, I go auto store next. It'll be more expensive than wal-mart, but not dealership prices.

00SUPERHAWK

Yeah 7 I thought of that, but again didnt want to get stuck with the API SN grade oil when the bike calls for SJ. SO I knew Honda had it since I was just there the other day and figured I error on the side of caution. Didnt think I get Raped!!!
So I gotta find out if the SN is a higher level than SJ, if so then next time Ill know.

00SUPERHAWK

OK so this is what I just found-

oilspecifications.org - Lubricant standards and specifications

Looks like API SM would work just fine.

7moore7

According to this SN is a newer oil and is backwards compatible with the SJ requirement... It's relating it all to cars, but if I understand it correctly as long as it's not "energy conserving" it won't be bad for your clutch.

API Motor Oil Service Classifications

Also, note that the last sentence I said is an assumptions, which gets me into trouble a lot

00SUPERHAWK

Yeah Me to!!! But thats what I read, eveything they had was the "Energy Conserving" in all brands. I know Autozone has the Mobil 1 "Bike Oil" So if worst comes to worst next time Ill just go there. Im sure its cheaper than at the dealer. Maybe not........

superbeater

Most Walmarts and Autozone sell Shell Rotella synthetic. It works great in bikes. Is it the best? Don't know, but thousands of forum members on this forum and SVrider and others are using it with good results.
Shell Rotella® Products | Shell Rotella
Rotella was less than $22/gallon at Walmart last week. It is compatible with a wet clutch.
Flame on.

00SUPERHAWK

Thanks Ill have to remember that brand. They have it in the 10w40?

7moore7

+1 That's what I've used the last few changes. If anything shifting is better than the Mobile1 racing 4t that I was using before that.

00SUPERHAWK

7 Yeah thats the one I just bought. You dont wanna know what I paid per Qt. I did see the Shell Rotella at Wally world but didnt think to get it. Now I know!!!

eram

I use the white bottle rotella dino in all my old bikes and projects - cheap and works great on those old clutches. I put the blue syn blend in my hawk last change and still feels great.

I highly recommend either.

00SUPERHAWK

So are you or the others running the 5w40? Isnt that a little lite for a V Twin?

mikstr

5W40 may be light for an air-cooled twin (mostly due to heat) but is fine for a liquid-cooled engine like the VTR...... It`s worth noting that many bike owners prefer the mineral Rotella (15W40) to the synth as it`s proven to be more shear resistant in many applications (bike clutches and gearboxes being renowned for shearing oil and causing a drop in viscocity).....

00SUPERHAWK

Mik, thats good to know. Just finished the oil change in preparation of Bike Week. Not sure what the PO had in it, but it was still fairly clean when I drained it. Next oil change Im gonna look in to the Shell oil and the lighter weight. I remember running 5w30 M1 in my ZX6 and it held up nicely.

WAYNEHAMMER

Carquest has rotella gallons for $17.99, and I use there premium blue filter (WIX) 85365

00SUPERHAWK

Dont have Carquest in my area. But Im sure AZ or Advance would have it. In 3k miles Ill be keeping my eye out. Not paying what I paid today again!!

superhawk22

Which wally filter were you looking for, don't know if you knew but there's 2 that fit.

00SUPERHAWK

Well the walmart near me isnt carrying Super Tech anymore, but I did find a Purolator and a Bosch so I know they have a couple of filters.

superhawk22

None at all? Wow maybe I should stock up! Btw I've been using the white triple protection rotella 15w-40 for about 7-8 years now just FYI.

00SUPERHAWK

Thanks for the info!! Is that the synthetic or reg? And yeah no ST filters at all. They had ST oil but nothing else.

superhawk22

It's the dino, heard good things about the synthetic as well but i tried some other synthetics and my bike hated it so never went back.

00SUPERHAWK

Cool thanks!!!! Gonna keep it in mind and now I know I have options.

superhawk22

No problems

smokinjoe73

So after putting all that thought into the purchase, you became confused and bewildered and lumbered into a stealership where they raped you?

Nice going. One born every minute.

00SUPERHAWK

LOL......yeah something like that!!! I knew they would have all that I needed so........Next time it wont be a dealership purchase.

Hawkrider

FWIW, the Superchicken loves running the Mobil 1 15W-50. Shifting is noticeably smoother and protection is top notch.

00SUPERHAWK

Greg, I was thinking the same thing. Today was a good example while in Daytona Bike Week. Stop and go traffic. Fans going non stop and I was thinking 15w50 would help with the heat and constant stop and go. OH did I mention what normally takes and hour to get home from Daytona to Melbourne, took 2 hrs do to a non stop rain!!!! Im still soaked!!!! But it was fun.

autoteach

I use this one oil. The turn signals flash much crisper than normal...

Hawkrider

No, that's blinker fluid that causes that, Bill. Stay on topic, buddy!

00SUPERHAWK

Thats good. I heard it helps with the muffler bearings too.