Factory Pro +4 ignition advance rotor for...?
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Because of my engine build, I can't use this Factory Pro +4 ignition advance rotor anymore. I wondered if anyone here with access to the right machines might want to take on making a couple dozen of these, or however many to make it profitable. Or heck, maybe scan it and make the data available.
Just thought I would throw it out there. Attachment 22016 Attachment 22017 |
Dibs!
If you put one on top of the other, do the inner teeth line up? I would doubt it but at a long shot could you not just file another flat? |
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Originally Posted by NZSpokes
(Post 386745)
Dibs!
If you put one on top of the other, do the inner teeth line up? I would doubt it but at a long shot could you not just file another flat? Attachment 22012 I'm not sure what you mean by your comment of filing another flat. I removed this FP rotor, because I'm installing Webcams (grind #189), JE 11.5:1 pistons and ported heads in my engine. With other engine builds like this, it was recommended that the FP rotor be removed, because of too much advance. So, I swapped back to a stock rotor. No calling dibs yet. Not sure what I'm doing with it in the future ;) |
Was it the second gen VTRs that did not benifit from the FP 4* advancer? Or some other mid year production change?
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Originally Posted by xeris
(Post 386764)
Was it the second gen VTRs that did not benifit from the FP 4* advancer? Or some other mid year production change?
And to make things interesting, check out post #13...here. So, you might have purchased an ignition advance rotor, but your engine is not being advanced at all. |
I am great with CAD design in Solidworks and could draw a model of it that can be used to make blueprints for a machine shop
Looks like it is stamped possibly, could be hard to replicate to be honest |
Has anyone tried cutting out the center of a stock gear, spin it 4 degrees, and then welding it back together?
I just ordered 4 of the stock pieces from Partzilla. They're only about $7 each. I figure I can experiment a little. Bill Annapolis, MD |
I have several of the stockers laying around too. Never thought about cutting and welding the stock one. One thing to note, I am not sure you can just cut it and rotate it 4 degrees. But now you have me curious. I will look on the Factory Pro gear and see how far it is rotated compared to stock. It wouldn't be very hard to cut the center out with a hole saw and then tig weld it back together.
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Originally Posted by Braymond
(Post 395249)
Has anyone tried cutting out the center of a stock gear, spin it 4 degrees, and then welding it back together?
I just ordered 4 of the stock pieces from Partzilla. They're only about $7 each. I figure I can experiment a little. Bill Annapolis, MD |
Crux,
Please explain what mysteries lurk in your new engine that facilitates removal of the ignition advancer! Just curious of course. |
Originally Posted by kenmoore
(Post 395253)
Crux,
Please explain what mysteries lurk in your new engine that facilitates removal of the ignition advancer! Just curious of course. Concerning cutting and welding the stock rotor, it's four degrees of crankshaft rotation. |
Here is a photo of mine with part numbers.
The seller of my current VTR said "Oh yeah, I have this too.Never did install it." I think I will hang on to it for now. http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/image_1.jpeg |
I'm toying with the idea of contacting one of my pals who used to work for HRC and trying to obtain the mapping data for the ECU and using that to have mine flashed locally. The initial advance of 4 degrees works really well, but needs to be retarded back to stock or maybe even slightly below stock above say 4,500rpm. A fixed mechanical advancer can't do that...
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If that falls through, I have a HRC unit that you can copy the data from. Just as long as it doesn't get erased, I don't mind helping out.
*In fact, isn't there a company that does a custom tune to your ICU? I am pretty sure there is a thread on here about this. *I appologize if any of the above information is incorrect. I just had two small surgeries and I'm tripping balls on pain killers. |
If there's a thread here on ICU/ECU tuning/re-flashing I can't find it.
Bill Annapolis, MD |
Originally Posted by Braymond
(Post 395283)
If there's a thread here on ICU/ECU tuning/re-flashing I can't find it.
Bill Annapolis, MD something is written here, starting on page 4 in the middle by MK_WF. www.vtr1000.org ? View topic - Red storm dyno - hp on engine In short, you can just buy Ignitech unit with stock map for VTR1000F, and do whatever map you want. FP 4 deg advancer is a bit outdated technology ... :-) |
Originally Posted by Stephan
(Post 395284)
something is written here, starting on page 4 in the middle by MK_WF.
www.vtr1000.org ? View topic - Red storm dyno - hp on engine In short, you can just buy Ignitech unit with stock map for VTR1000F, and do whatever map you want. FP 4 deg advancer is a bit outdated technology ... :-) which Ignitech did you buy and use? Do you have a part number for the specific one that was plug and play? programmable ignition units SPARKER TCIP4 (standard) $141 SPARKER TCIP4 (full version) $149 SPARKER HONDA TCI $145 SPARKER RACING 3 $217 SPARKER DC-CDI-P $154 SPARKER DC-CDI-P1 race $162 SPARKER DC-CDI-P2 $162 PARKER DC-CDI-P2 RACE $192 Prices for any of them are reasonable, so Im only concerned with getting the right box. Thanks |
Erik: I bought TCIP4 (standard) specified for Honda VTR1000F. There was preload stock map, and the same connector as on original CDI. Just plug and play. Then you need USB to serial adapter that is working (with FTDI chip) and connect it with computer. Nothing really difficult.
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Originally Posted by Stephan
(Post 395290)
Erik: I bought TCIP4 (standard) specified for Honda VTR1000F. There was preload stock map, and the same connector as on original CDI. Just plug and play. Then you need USB to serial adapter that is working (with FTDI chip) and connect it with computer. Nothing really difficult.
Seeing as this is a better option then the unavailable advancer at only slightly more $$..what the heck Email sent to order, now I wait for a reply :D |
Crux, I PM'd you.
Call me tomorrow... |
Originally Posted by skokievtr
(Post 395499)
Crux, I PM'd you.
Call me tomorrow... |
Originally Posted by E.Marquez
(Post 395291)
Outstanding, thank you.
Seeing as this is a better option then the unavailable advancer at only slightly more $$..what the heck Email sent to order, now I wait for a reply :D |
Originally Posted by xeris
(Post 396600)
Did you get a response to your inquiry? If so will you provide me with the email that you used. I am not able to find more than the description page for the TCIP4. Thanks in advance.
Has original unit 16 or 22 pin connector ? We can offer programmable unit TCIP4 standard with connector adapter. unit TCIP4 standard 141 USD connector adapter 21 USD Freightage DHL 52 USD Useful accessories is USB/COM cable for connection to PC 15 USD Payment method is card payment or PayPal. Should we send invoice to you ? We will also need to know your phone number for forwarder. Regards. Jiri Krejzl IGNITECH |
Originally Posted by E.Marquez
(Post 396693)
Hello,
Has original unit 16 or 22 pin connector ? We can offer programmable unit TCIP4 standard with connector adapter. unit TCIP4 standard 141 USD connector adapter 21 USD Freightage DHL 52 USD Useful accessories is USB/COM cable for connection to PC 15 USD Payment method is card payment or PayPal. Should we send invoice to you ? We will also need to know your phone number for forwarder. Regards. Jiri Krejzl IGNITECH I turned my brain on and easily found the full web site. |
Programmable ECU
Originally Posted by xeris
(Post 396697)
Thanks,
I turned my brain on and easily found the full web site. |
Originally Posted by Fastguy59
(Post 395268)
I'm toying with the idea of contacting one of my pals who used to work for HRC and trying to obtain the mapping data for the ECU and using that to have mine flashed locally. The initial advance of 4 degrees works really well, but needs to be retarded back to stock or maybe even slightly below stock above say 4,500rpm. A fixed mechanical advancer can't do that...
Anyone got their fingers on the original Honda mappnig? |
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