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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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3rd Trackday on Superhawk

Decided to get off my butt and start doing trackdays instead of riding in the canyons for all these years (20+). The Superhawk has been doing great so far- I'm so impressed with the versatility this bike has shown me since I bought it in '98. I've rode it numerous times to Laguna Seca from LA, I've hit the twisties with it, I've used it as a commuter. And now on the track, it's not bad at all.

This time I took it to Calif. Speedway, and had a blast. Granted, it's not the sharpest knife out there, but it's plenty fast, and nice and stable (except when I push it hard in the chicanes). It holds it's own out of the corners, and of course, the really fast guys seem to get me down the straightaway or braking into the apexes (which I will never push- gotta work on Monday!). A friendly observer said he enjoyed the exhaust note- though he did mention the word "Duc" in that statement.

Riding on the track is such a joy. I'm just disappointed that I waited so long to do it. Thanks to all who've posted great info here, it's helped out quite a bit over the years, and also thanks to my buddy Kiyo Watanabe for his impressive tuning magic. Pics are courtesy Powersportsphotography.com.

Cheers. Skin side up.
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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Man that looks like fun ! Nice pics ! got any more?
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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Really, Kiyo is your "buddy"? Ask him if he can still get Mori exhaust for the VTR. I've been trying to get some replacement parts from BVH for a couple of months now and they keep blowing me off. He's a great resource for the VTR, and many other bikes as well.

Have you done any suspension work?
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hrcvf1000r
Man that looks like fun ! Nice pics ! got any more?
Thanks, yes, I'm still slobbering all over myself thinking about the next time I go out there. The straightaway is something else.

Attached are a couple more shots.

The other pics I have aren't as good. They always seem to get a lot of pics of us on our warm up laps...(Geez, those photographers seem to have quite a racket going!).
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
Really, Kiyo is your "buddy"? Ask him if he can still get Mori exhaust for the VTR. I've been trying to get some replacement parts from BVH for a couple of months now and they keep blowing me off. He's a great resource for the VTR, and many other bikes as well.

Have you done any suspension work?
Greg, PM sent.

Yes, Kiyo has redone my suspension, which transformed it completely. Re-sprung front end and Fox prototype rear shock with Eibach spring. (No idea on the spring rates.)
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Great pics! I don't like Cal. Speedway because Fastrack charges an arm and a leg, and PSP does likewise for the pictures. But, they both do good work.
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by marmaladeboy
Great pics! I don't like Cal. Speedway because Fastrack charges an arm and a leg, and PSP does likewise for the pictures. But, they both do good work.
Yep, very spendy indeed. The things I do like about it however are the track (lots of run-off area it seems), the garage facility, the number of corner workers, and it's fairly close to my house. Having said that, Willow Springs is only about an hour away in the opposite direction, and much cheaper. Only problem is lack of weekend dates there for Fastrack.

Are there other good track clubs locally? I know about WSMC....

The PSP guys are good, but yeah, it's super expensive. I was too cheap to buy all those pics, but at least they allow you to download the "samplers" from their website.
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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Track clubs for racing, or track clubs for riding at tracks? WSMC is for racing, and is only (until next season) at Big Willow (aka: Willow Springs International Raceway). Supposedly WSMC will run a small series at Streets of Willow next racing season, but we'll see how that goes.

As for trackday providers (a la Fastrack), there are many to choose from: Club Desmo, TrackDaZ, Take It To The Track, Dial It In Tracktime, etc. You can take a look at several providers here:

http://www.biketweakers.com/trackcalendar_2007.html
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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I too, love California Speedway. I have rode my Superhawk, Buell Cyclone, and even a Ninja 250 (on the infield course). The price is about right for me as I live in San Diego where there are no tracks. If I go to Willow Springs or Buttonwillow, the extra gas and the extra time on the road takes away the joy of their cheaper prices and generally would end up costing as much as if I went to Cali Speedway. Plus the garages (workbenches with electricity and air outlets) are great! Fastrackriders also starts all their sessions on time 99.9% of the time and no lunch breaks. It's great!

I recently picked up another 98 Superhawk and am making it a track only bike (520 conversion-sharkskinz upper-racetech front-ohlins rear) and am scheduling myself to be at Cali Speedway 5 times this year. If any of you go, post on here in advance and maybe we can pit together!

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Originally Posted by marmaladeboy
Track clubs for racing, or track clubs for riding at tracks? WSMC is for racing, and is only (until next season) at Big Willow (aka: Willow Springs International Raceway). Supposedly WSMC will run a small series at Streets of Willow next racing season, but we'll see how that goes.

As for trackday providers (a la Fastrack), there are many to choose from: Club Desmo, TrackDaZ, Take It To The Track, Dial It In Tracktime, etc. You can take a look at several providers here:

http://www.biketweakers.com/trackcalendar_2007.html
Thanks marmaladeboy! I guess I should have worded the question a bit differently- I was just wondering if you personally have any favorites track clubs that you recommend. I'll definitely check out your link...

Regarding WSMC, KW invited me to go with him to a practice day on a Friday upcoming, but I don't think I'll be able to make in anyway. Not sure how I would've got on. Anway, I'll try the big track next year sometime (if I can find my ***** in the closet).
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by prhenderson
I too, love California Speedway. I have rode my Superhawk, Buell Cyclone, and even a Ninja 250 (on the infield course). The price is about right for me as I live in San Diego where there are no tracks. If I go to Willow Springs or Buttonwillow, the extra gas and the extra time on the road takes away the joy of their cheaper prices and generally would end up costing as much as if I went to Cali Speedway. Plus the garages (workbenches with electricity and air outlets) are great! Fastrackriders also starts all their sessions on time 99.9% of the time and no lunch breaks. It's great!

I recently picked up another 98 Superhawk and am making it a track only bike (520 conversion-sharkskinz upper-racetech front-ohlins rear) and am scheduling myself to be at Cali Speedway 5 times this year. If any of you go, post on here in advance and maybe we can pit together!

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Greetings Phil! I'll be there Jan. 13th (Sat.), for the infield course. I'd love to check out your "tracker" if you're there.
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kevink2
Thanks marmaladeboy! I guess I should have worded the question a bit differently- I was just wondering if you personally have any favorites track clubs that you recommend. I'll definitely check out your link...

Regarding WSMC, KW invited me to go with him to a practice day on a Friday upcoming, but I don't think I'll be able to make in anyway. Not sure how I would've got on. Anway, I'll try the big track next year sometime (if I can find my ***** in the closet).
I've never run the "Big Track" either. That track is basically a "let's see how big your cajones are." I love Streets of Willow - it's tight, but not too tight, for our Superhawks.

As for favorite track clubs, TrackDaZ runs a real laid back atmosphere for their trackdays. Cal-Sportbiike/Sportbike Tracktime also runs a great show - very professional and always on-time. Dial It In is also another good company.
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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Yeah the Streets is definitely fun on the 'Hawk.

Thanks for the link, the biketweaker list of trackdays is spectacular!
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kevink2
The PSP guys are good, but yeah, it's super expensive. I was too cheap to buy all those pics, but at least they allow you to download the "samplers" from their website.
As a pro shooter, I see this as nothing more than theft. They obviously have value to you so pay for them or don't use them..

Oh and welcome to the site. :-)
Old Dec 13, 2006 | 06:54 AM
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I agree with superbling to a point, that second shot in the first post is worth buying for sure, I would kill to have a shot of me like that.

But don't feel bad about posting the proofs, it helps advertise powersportsphotography.com, thats why they are proofs, low quality and for public use. I am sure they would have no problem with you using them, even encourage it i'm sure

And hey, you ride on your toes like me good to see another "ballet dancer" (as i've been called), I thought I was the only one
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Originally Posted by superbling
As a pro shooter, I see this as nothing more than theft. They obviously have value to you so pay for them or don't use them..

Oh and welcome to the site. :-)
I got a poster size shot of that one, don't worry! I meant I was too cheap to buy all the shots ($100 for a CD plus the $60 already spent for the poster print).
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Originally Posted by Arctic Fire
I agree with superbling to a point, that second shot in the first post is worth buying for sure, I would kill to have a shot of me like that.

But don't feel bad about posting the proofs, it helps advertise powersportsphotography.com, thats why they are proofs, low quality and for public use. I am sure they would have no problem with you using them, even encourage it i'm sure

And hey, you ride on your toes like me good to see another "ballet dancer" (as i've been called), I thought I was the only one
Thanks, that's why I made sure to give PSP props in my original post.

Toe action is important in my book. No fun dragging feet!
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Originally Posted by kevink2
I got a poster size shot of that one, don't worry! I meant I was too cheap to buy all the shots ($100 for a CD plus the $60 already spent for the poster print).
Cool.

Next time buy the full rez CD and have anything printed at your local wallyworld or from internet printers. Way cheaper and you both get what you want/need.

Printer competition (especially internet) is so fierce I no longer do my own and farm it out as they can do it cheaper than I!
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Originally Posted by superbling
Cool.

Next time buy the full rez CD and have anything printed at your local wallyworld or from internet printers. Way cheaper and you both get what you want/need.

Printer competition (especially internet) is so fierce I no longer do my own and farm it out as they can do it cheaper than I!
Thanks, excellent idea. Come to think of it I've got a friend who might be able to do that type of printing for me.
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Welcome too the addiction!!! Stay on 2 that pavement HURTS, trackdays are the most fun you can have with your clothes on if you ask me, even after a 60+ mph highside!
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
Welcome too the addiction!!! Stay on 2 that pavement HURTS, trackdays are the most fun you can have with your clothes on if you ask me, even after a 60+ mph highside!
LOL, true that! IMO the only winners at trackdays are those that make it back home with their bike and body intact!

Hope you are okay after get off like that!
Old Dec 14, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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2 true!! I went almost 2 years before my 1st wreck and hope not to do it again for a looooooong time to come.
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So far, the guys falling in front of me (on cold tires every time) are a good reminder for myself to practice some restraint out there!
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Cold tires SUCK, tire warmers kick ***!! Nothing like cheap insurance and being able to go full out on the first lap.
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
Cold tires SUCK, tire warmers kick ***!! Nothing like cheap insurance and being able to go full out on the first lap.
Crap, something else to buy! Maybe Santa will be nice to me this year, I've been trying to be a good boy...
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I have been to Roadamerica 4 miles long. Its a blast. and last year "only year I have been there" I met the 16year old Josh that did so good this year. AMA was comming we were leaving. Will have to look for him this year. Funny thing is it was my last day rain day to and he was walking his dog a Weimeraner pup. I have one also we just talked about the pups did not now who he was. Just turned 16 that weekend. sorry got to go wife is a nagging but she lets me do trackdays and cleans my bike when we are there.
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Originally Posted by Stumpy
I have been to Roadamerica 4 miles long. Its a blast. and last year "only year I have been there" I met the 16year old Josh that did so good this year. AMA was comming we were leaving. Will have to look for him this year. Funny thing is it was my last day rain day to and he was walking his dog a Weimeraner pup. I have one also we just talked about the pups did not now who he was. Just turned 16 that weekend. sorry got to go wife is a nagging but she lets me do trackdays and cleans my bike when we are there.
I believe Josh Herrin is an up and coming star.... on our day at Fontana, James Ellison was there testing his new Corona CBR1000RR Superbike and Chris Ulrich was giving rides for charity on his GSXR 1000 (PSP pic attached. Hilarious, she rides how my wife does- eyes closed, head glued to the back of my helmet!). Ulrich came smokin' by me, two up, more than a few times.
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