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Old Mar 25, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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310 CRANKIN AMPS??? ODYSEY BATTERY who?????

hey guys, long time no talk ~ ! just like you guys, im out ridin my hawk as much as i can. well, im sick of the same old generic batteries and my brother has a blaze orange odyssey battery in his 98 buell thunderbolt naked bike. he swears by the battery and it always outperforms mine when stored for the same time and then cranked over in ohio's cold winters. it is a dry cell battery, which is nice so you dont have any leaking. well go to the link below, se what you think.

100 more CCA (cold crankin amps) than the yuasa YTZ14S for our hawks, BUT it doesnt list our bike , though all the bikes listed are wussier than ours and the battery will fit as its smaller in size. what ya think? or should i just stick to the ytz14s ? this seems good for twins though in cold weather or JUST for that extra ooomph
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http://www.odysseybatteries.com/battery/pc310.htm
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Re: 310 CRANKIN AMPS??? ODYSEY BATTERY who?????

I used an Odyssey in my BMW and was very impressed. Worth the money in my opinion.

When I was up for an Odyssey for the VTR my local battery shop, whom I know and trust, told me that even better again is the Deka. It is an absorbed glass matting type battery like the Odyssey and they make a size to suit the VTR. Their terminals are also of a standard type unlike the Odyssey. I have not used it yet, but trust my retailer.

They are made by you boys in the USA at:

EAST PENN manufacturing co. inc. Lyon Station PA 19536.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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hmmmmm Deka huh. ill do some research. still curious about the Odyssey battery if anyone has any input. im just sick of acid based batteries which ive seen leak and bubble and do a good number on metals and plastics.


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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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It's a gell cell. Well regarded product with a good history. Kinda spendy for my taste.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Re: 310 CRANKIN AMPS??? ODYSEY BATTERY who?????

Hey, as I said the Odyssey I had was great. No complaints at all.
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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well, called the local deka dealer here in east cleveland, and good news: for 58.60 + tax i can pick one up! guess there real nice and about the same thing as the odyssey. thanks for the help!
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Originally Posted by ClevelandSuperhawkRumble";p=&quot
well, called the local deka dealer here in east cleveland, and good news: for 58.60 + tax i can pick one up! guess there real nice and about the same thing as the odyssey. thanks for the help!
Do you know the Part number for the Deka that fits the superhawk?
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yes, its written in my car, ill have to get it...
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ClevelandSuperhawkRumble";p=&quot
well, called the local deka dealer here in east cleveland, and good news: for 58.60 + tax i can pick one up! guess there real nice and about the same thing as the odyssey. thanks for the help!
No worries mate, glad I could help. :wink:
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http://www.eastpenn-deka.com/product...ine_power.html

the model is ETX12, according to the guy i talked to on the phone. the terminals look right too. go to link above. i cant wait!
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just to give you an update. picked up the etx12DEKA battery friday and there are 180CCA . though when i put it in, it sounded more like an IL4 starting up seeing how there was a higher tone and that starter was crankin! ill take a few less CCA's to get the low maintenance, no spill of this battery. A+

thanks shayne!
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Re: 310 CRANKIN AMPS??? ODYSEY BATTERY who?????

if you guys ever need any battery help ... I am new to this board. I am picking up my 1998 this weekend.
I have been with Yuasa for 13 years (Engineering and Technical Sales)

I can dispell a few myths real quick for you guys ....

There is no such thing as GEL motorcycle battery (except in a BMW). GEL is used for Trolling motor and wheel chair batteries, where they run directly off the battery, it allows for better charge recovery, but has no cranking ability what so ever.
There is also no such thing as a "dry cell" as Odyssey says.
Every single sealed battery in the world made for a motorcycle is a Sealed Lead-Acid AGM battery. Technology has not changed since Yuasa invented this battery for Honda in 1985. With the exception of the YTZ series of batteries that Yuasa developed for Honda .. for the 2001 and up Superhawk. These batteries have expanded metal plates, thus allow for thinner plates, more surface area, and the result of much higher cranking amps than a standard AGM motorcycle battery.

Here is my other 2 cents .... Deka makes a good battery in the US (right up the road from Yuasa) and Westco makes a good one too (in Taiwan)... but Odyssey sucks, big time ..... they lie about everything in their marketing. Industry standard (SAE) for Cold Cranking is done at 0 degrees F. they cheat by doing theirs at 32 degrees F. Any Yuasa, Deka, Westco will outcrank and Odyssey any day of the week. And I have documentation to prove it. Don't waste you money on those stupid orange batteries. Not to mention that none of their sizes exactly fit any stock motorcycle battery size. That is what happens when you take a Fire Alarm battery and try to make it work for a motorcycle.

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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thanks for the input , Alan. ill keep you in mind when i need battery help.
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Question Battery help.....Please

Man, oh man, I about tossed my Hawk away today. My wife was even on board, telling me to go ahead and trade it in! She even seemed disappointed when I came home today and started looking for new parts for my Superhawk! Anyways, I've not had it out for about a week and the darn thing would not start. What really got my goat was the battery died after about 5 cranks. Well, I haven't had a motorcycle since my CB700sc Nighthawk but I tend to remember getting more cranks out of it before it died.

I do understand that it was four little guys instead of two major sized pistons but is the turn over that much different to cause my battery to die so quick?

Longer version: When I bought the bike last October (friom a dealer) I rode it solid the fist 5 days. I went back to the dealer to get a tank bag and hit some slow traffic. I didn't think anything about it, stopped at the dealer, did some shopping and blah blah blah. When I went out to go home the thing would not even turn over. So, I walked back into the service department feeling like an idiot and wondering how I was going to make the 15 mile journey home.....I asked the service guy for some help. I explained that I just got the bike from his dealer 5 days earlier and he gladly pushed the bike bake into the shop. He came out about 5 mins later and told me that one of his guys was testing the battery. About another 5 mins and he tells me the battery was a bad unit and they swapped it out with a new battery. Problem solve, right?

Well, I rode it well into the winter. Once the really cold weather hit I had some starting problems again. I figured it was just me since I hadn't been starting bike in the cold for a long while and it is a big v-twin. so I bought a battery tender /charger and every time I would yank the battery out and charge it up then try again the next day.And, it would always start up when the battery was fresh. So, I just chaulked it up to a finiky bike.

Well, it is for sure getting warmer out and I am riding much more frequently (meaning even in bad weather now). On the way home from work one day I ran into a 6 mile back up with basically inch by inch travel. It was hell on the clutch hand, but I enjoyed being on the bike so much, I didn't really care! I get out of the jam up and drive about 4 miles home at about 70 MPH.

Next morning, the darn thing would not even turn over once! I mean, the lights barely came on in the gauges and it would barley even click. No way was it going to crank all the way over. Again, I hauled tyhe battery out, charged it up and away I rode the next day.

Now, back to paragraph 1...

So, what is the darn deal, another bum battery? Something else could be broke (E.G. regulator or so)? Forgive me, it's been awhile sine I was working on motorcycles and when I did it was motocross or dual purpose bikes. Nothing as intimidating as ripping into a V-Twin! :P
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A battery of the AGM type such as the Deka will be better than a normal wet battery when left to sit around a while. If you are not riding your bike regularly then this could be a good option for you. Letting a normal battery go flat will stuff them, they don't like it.

Having said that, it seems you may be having charging problems, which on the VTR could be your regulator. Check to see that the system is charging at 13.5 -14 volts. Your local shop should be able to do this for you easily.

I am guessing you have a 98 model. You will note that the regulator (under the rear seat fairing on the RH side) is just a black box. The later models had cooling fins on them, as they get too hot and burn out. If it is stuffed get a later model one and you should be right.

Another option is aftermarket. Some other members may be able to assist you in where to go, I am in Australia so I am no help!
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anyone ever heard of predator batteries? i remember an autoshop teacher of mine back in socal telling my class there is simply no better battery out their for our bikes....just a thought i wanted to throw out there, as i have done no research myself on them.
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Originally Posted by j shizzy wizzy
anyone ever heard of predator batteries? i remember an autoshop teacher of mine back in socal telling my class there is simply no better battery out their for our bikes....just a thought i wanted to throw out there, as i have done no research myself on them.
sorry if this sounds stupid but was it predator the actual brand or could he have meant the battery out of a polaris predator ATV? i did some quick looking online and couldnt find anything aside from the ATV battery. I'm pretty young and new to the moto world so maybe some of the more seasoned guys would be apt to remember if its a brand no longer being made?
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i'm pretty sure it was a brand. i remember he showed us some brochure that had pictures of cop bikes writing tickets while leaving the lights on and the engine off.....this was 5-6 years ago though. so i figure if its not on googles first page then they could be gone or bought out???
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AKohler, please help me! My 98 SuperHawk has become impossible to cold crank! I have a new (June 08) Yuasa battery, correct for the bike (those later batteriesYTZ sound good, too) and a new starter motor. Bike has always been indoors, no corrosion. I cannot get that bike to crank without brutally using a charger-helper. Finally, I can get the bike to start, and once it is warm, it cranks like crazy! Starts right away!
What the hell is the problem? BTW, should I go to a late style (YTZ) batt. next time?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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