replacement winker relays?
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replacement winker relays?
Hello everyone!
So I've discovered that my turn signal light has a very long delay. After a long search and much reading I've decided it best to simply replace them with automobile relays...but which one, and or from what? Comments or precautions from anyone else?
Thanks for the input!
So I've discovered that my turn signal light has a very long delay. After a long search and much reading I've decided it best to simply replace them with automobile relays...but which one, and or from what? Comments or precautions from anyone else?
Thanks for the input!
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You need that info too, I presume?
And yeah I've heard to just remove the existing one and bring it in to an auto parts place...but honestly those employees in general don't know squat about nuttin, let alone electrical issues lol
And yeah I've heard to just remove the existing one and bring it in to an auto parts place...but honestly those employees in general don't know squat about nuttin, let alone electrical issues lol
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There was a whole thread on this before, but the delay seems to be consistent with weather temperatures. The colder the weather, the longer the delay. Some cold mornings my blinkers refuse to work, but on moderate to warm days they work first time, every time. I have torn my switch apart and cleaned it and regreased it with no positive results.
Im sure tweety would know which relay to use.
Im sure tweety would know which relay to use.
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There was a whole thread on this before, but the delay seems to be consistent with weather temperatures. The colder the weather, the longer the delay. Some cold mornings my blinkers refuse to work, but on moderate to warm days they work first time, every time. I have torn my switch apart and cleaned it and regreased it with no positive results.
Im sure tweety would know which relay to use.
Im sure tweety would know which relay to use.
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Right right we've already established all that..what I...or we would like to know is which automobile relay to use...cause cleaning does nothing, its a design flaw...and another guy on this forum has done it...was hoping for his input...or anybody's that actually swapped theirs out
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This is what I am using.Custom LED Electronic LED Flasher Blinker Relay - Plug And Play
I swapped to it because of going to led blinkers and having a high flash rate, but should not be affected by temp either.
I swapped to it because of going to led blinkers and having a high flash rate, but should not be affected by temp either.
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I had the exact same delay problem when it was cold. My left would either have a huge delay or not work at all. The right was fine. I believe it has to do with the load draw changing when cold and having either all LEDs or a mix. I replaced mine with a relay from High Tech Speed (same guys who make the Proton signals) and it fixed the issue.
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HighTechSpeed - motorcycle high technology
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As far as the regular auto relays, I do not know. The issue seems to arise from LED signals not drawing the same amout as a regular bulb.
From the High Tech Speed website: "...virtually all motorcycle flashers are mechanical flashers, designed for bulbs. Using LED signals with a mechnical flasher causes "fast flash", or even failure to flash at all." The cold must alter the resistance and make the problem worse, as was in most of the reported cases.
If you replaced the relay with a car or truck relay, I am not so sure it would fix the problem unless it was made for LED signals. The High Tech Speed relay has the same plug as the OEM relay. It took about 60 seconds to install the new one and it corrected the delay and the fast flash. Hope this helps.
From the High Tech Speed website: "...virtually all motorcycle flashers are mechanical flashers, designed for bulbs. Using LED signals with a mechnical flasher causes "fast flash", or even failure to flash at all." The cold must alter the resistance and make the problem worse, as was in most of the reported cases.
If you replaced the relay with a car or truck relay, I am not so sure it would fix the problem unless it was made for LED signals. The High Tech Speed relay has the same plug as the OEM relay. It took about 60 seconds to install the new one and it corrected the delay and the fast flash. Hope this helps.
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Lmfao! Yeah, what the heck is that? Sign language? Hahaha tellin ya man, people aren't trained to recognize those...I used a left turn once, an the guy got all angry, thought I was flipping him off or something...
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Those are for other cyclists, particularly in a group ride. Cages are stupid. Throw rock at them. Unless I'm driving one. Then I'm the smartest, most perceptive, super-human petrol powered thing north of antartica.
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The delay is caused by two things... The switch, thick cold grease takes warming up and limbering up... The relay, it's actually a bi-metal switch, ie a metal flap that moves when the current through it makes it hot... So cold morning = slower movement until it builds heat...
So, combine the two problems, and the two solutions... Clean the switch on the handlebar, and clean the contacts inside the signal housings and on the relay... Then it is a good idea to replace the relay to get rid of that delay...
My advice is to get one of the two linked here, both are based on an integrated circuit, instead of an oldschool bimetal relay... However any replacement automotive relay will work really as long as it's threeprong and marked NO, but all of them are "oldschool" and all of them will need warming up even when new...
So, combine the two problems, and the two solutions... Clean the switch on the handlebar, and clean the contacts inside the signal housings and on the relay... Then it is a good idea to replace the relay to get rid of that delay...
My advice is to get one of the two linked here, both are based on an integrated circuit, instead of an oldschool bimetal relay... However any replacement automotive relay will work really as long as it's threeprong and marked NO, but all of them are "oldschool" and all of them will need warming up even when new...
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You can however probably find them as aftermarket parts for cars too though... They should be marked as "load independant" and be made to be used with LED signals...
The best way to tell is that any solid lump of potted resin and made to be used with LED flashers are IC based (resin means no moving parts)... If it's a plastic case that is hollow (tap it with your finger) means it has a moving part inside, ie bi-metal type not the type you want...
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