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Please post Year and Miles of CCT failure

Old Oct 16, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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Exclamation Please post Year and Miles of CCT failure

also, any anecdotal thoughts as to warning and mode of operation at crux point, thanks! We need a statistical mean for folks to get er done...!
Old Oct 16, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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I've got about 13.5k miles on my bike without a failure. I've had some cam chain noise when cruising under very light load since 5k miles. It hasn't gotten any worse/louder in over 8 thousand miles. I was gonna wait 'till 16k when I need to do the valve clearance, but now you guys are making me nervous.

PS bike is an '03 purchased new in '05

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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nuhawk

Searching is fine, but I think a new thread dedicated to people listing model year, mileage and CCT failure, or noise, or no problem is worthwhile.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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and a thread that does not get 'jacked
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Heard the rattle at 44k miles, got home parked it, and replaced the cct's so I didn't blow up the motor, and thus can't 100% say if it was really "the noise" or not. Also looks like previous owner may have replaced the rear one, but not the front, but can't tell for sure. Either way it was about time I would say.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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I replaced them both at 21K for good measure. Then at 38K the front one failed.
I am waiting on my APE CCTs from UPS as I type this. Come on Brown!
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:35 AM
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With all this I'm freaked I've got my legs wrapped around a ticking time bomb. The APE CCT for the Superhawk is the same model as for the CBR1000RR, is it not? So- do Honda I-4's spontaneously burst into grenades as well? 27.8K Miles on my bike, just ordered APE's yesterday.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:46 AM
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2004 33k on OEM's. No noise but still changed them.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:13 AM
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I have 22k on mine & am planning on changing them this winter. no noise but you guys make me nervous. My son's cbr900 needed a cct at about 30k. went bad with no warning.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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'98 with 22k miles, starting to hear a slight rattle at lower RPMs on and off. Wanting to replace them soon, but $ and wife are limiting factors.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Failure at 18k, replaced with new oem's at 30k now, I'm running it till it dies now. I guess i was lucky, I was idling up my driveway w/ the choke on fiddling w/ my mirrors somehow just jumped timing and didn't annihilate anything. I know other makes and models that have very similar problems too. Honestly the manual ones sound good but I guess we'll see about the "updated" Honda ones!
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Mine went bad at 17k. Since then, No problems whatsoever from the ape mcct's.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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I forgot to mention I got mine cheap as a recovered theft that had been ragged out till the battery jump they did to steal it blew a fuse! I love this thing though, I'll never buy anything but a twin or triple.......cheers.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:21 AM
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Most everyone is not indicating the model year of the bike that had a CCT fail. I think we are trying to find out if certain years are more prone to fail than others. Maybe it would be better to have this as a poll for the year then we can follow up with details on the mileage?

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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by motojoe
I replaced them both at 21K for good measure. Then at 38K the front one failed.
I am waiting on my APE CCTs from UPS as I type this. Come on Brown!
Ouch..only 17k on them!
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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1998 17K total front failure with out warning. Heads are in the shop right now.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Moto Man
Most everyone is not indicating the model year of the bike that had a CCT fail. I think we are trying to find out if certain years are more prone to fail than others. Maybe it would be better to have this as a poll for the year then we can follow up with details on the mileage?
Amusing to me that these simple requests could not be followed for this thread.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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47.000 and still quiet.....but you guys have been making me nervous,
soooo----just got apes...shops want too much; have to put 'em in myself, I guess....
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Gee NuHawk, thanks!

rant off.

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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 01:59 PM
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Just relpaced mine at 49500 km (31000 miles) after failure of front one. Replaced with manual.
Previous owner replaced first set at 30000 km (18750 miles).
Bike is a 2000 model.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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rant off.

Wow, that was just childish. Your caps lock...please fix it.

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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 04:51 PM
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I replaced mine as I was building the bike (02 with 14k) and they hadn't failed. The old ones are available if anyone wants them.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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1998 with APE CCT's installed by previous owner at 18K. I think it was preventative maintenance.

So for your files, stock tensioners survived at least 18K.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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'98. happened just under 13k miles.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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'98 never failed, installed APE CCT as preventive maintenance at 15K miles.
Old Oct 17, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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You have to put a couple things in perspective. First off, most of the Superhawks out there are 98's because that was its biggest sales year. IIRC it was about a quarter million bikes - next year it was about half that and at the end of its run the Superhawk sold 60-80K bikes per year. Age seems to be less a factor than style of riding. One of the members here had a 01 that went down at 16k. Members here that replace tensioners in the mid-teens come back to do chains at thirty k. Like has been said. Preventative maintenance is the presumptive edge that a Superhawk (and a vast number of other Honda vehicles) require to avoid catastrophic damage to the engine.

The second thing is that most of the guys that have had failures don't hang here anymore. Some rebuild but most don't. It ends a chapter and guys move to other bikes. The guys here that have done the maintenance still have our Superhawks.

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Old Oct 18, 2008 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nuhawk
The second thing is that most of the guys that have had failures don't hang here anymore. Some rebuild but most don't. It ends a chapter and guys move to other bikes. The guys here that have done the maintenance still have our Superhawks.
Hey, I'm fixing my pile of a motorcycle. I'm not saying I'd ever buy another hawk, but I've already got this one and it's currently worthless, so there's nowhere but up.
Old Oct 18, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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I know how you feel. I didn't have it happen to my Superhawk but it did happen to my Prelude. Cute little car that I dumped thousands into. I had no clue the valve train problems of the Honda bikes extended to their automobiles. When the timing belt gave out I crushed three of four cylinders.
Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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2000 model: rear failed in my 13th month of ownership, which I believe was about 5k miles. I was able to get it slid in under warranty. Happened again (rear) about 8 mos later at about 7500 total miles. Had it warrantied again. Happened again roughly a year later at less than 10k total and I finally said screw factory ccts, completely tore it down and replaced the affected valves, seals, pistons (no damage, just wanted the JEs) and installed the Apes. No problems for 5 years. So I went through 3 on the rear in less than 10k, never a front. Maybe it is riding style, but I'm really not that hard on my bike, though there was that minor broken crank issue a couple years ago...

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