I think i siezed my engine please help
#1
I think i siezed my engine please help
so at an open house yesterday I was in the burnout pit I started to do a burnout brought it up to about 9000rpm and the bike shut down like it was out of gas. It started right back up and did the same think again. Then it was like the batterry was dead. When looking around the bike i did not see any oil in the sight glass I had to lean the bike almost all the way over to see anything. I put two quarts of oil in it and it was at a good level. so I put a jumper pack on, it it turned over fired once for a few seconds and now is locked up. I pulled the starter off that is working but when I try to start it it just clicks (when the starter is installed) I tried pop starting it in every gear and nothing it just drags the back tire. Please if anyone has any insight on this help me out My super chicken is my life I am crushed right now. thank you
Ethan
Ethan
#2
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Step 1)
Pull the fly-wheel cap off(center of left side engine cover) and put a socket on the bolt(crank) and see if you can rotate it counter clockwise. If it can, your engine is not seized.
Step 2)
Make sure battery has 12-14 volts.
Step 3)
Pull spark plugs and see if it will spin over. If it does, it is not seized.
Step 4)
Do a compression test. If you have low pressure, you may have bigger problems. Rings, cylinder wear, valves(if they are ticking).....
Hope these quick tests help.
Pull the fly-wheel cap off(center of left side engine cover) and put a socket on the bolt(crank) and see if you can rotate it counter clockwise. If it can, your engine is not seized.
Step 2)
Make sure battery has 12-14 volts.
Step 3)
Pull spark plugs and see if it will spin over. If it does, it is not seized.
Step 4)
Do a compression test. If you have low pressure, you may have bigger problems. Rings, cylinder wear, valves(if they are ticking).....
Hope these quick tests help.
#6
The factory rev limiter kicks in at 10.3k RPM and you can bounce it off the limiter all day long and not hurt anything, that is the purpose of the limiter. My motor has spent a bit of time over 9k rpm and I have hit the rev limiter multiple times with no damage to my motor. Though I wouldn't recommend doing it while the motor is 2 qts. low on oil.
The first step is as motojoe stated, remove the center plug on the flywheel cover and try to rotate the motor by hand. Then if it does spin follow the rest of the list and let us know what you find.
#10
9,000 rpm is no big deal when under load, pushing the weight of bike and rider. 9k rpm with no load, however, is like running a test to see how long it takes before it blows. And standing up while letting the rear tire burn is just about a no load situation.
#12
I'd guess it's all about running the bike without half its oil and not much about a high rev burnout. If the bike had 2 quarts in the crank case when he checked, I doubt it had 4 quarts the day, week or month before.
#13
Several times when I was teaching Vocational Automotives, I had a customer come in for a tune-up or scope diagnosis or whatever, and they had 1 quart or less in their engine. I'm sure longevity had to be affected, but they ran fine when they left the shop. And one of those was a 4 year old Civic, a 1984 I think, with 40,000 miles. The customer had bought it new and never had the oil changed. Just put gas in it and drove it for 4 years.
#14
Several times when I was teaching Vocational Automotives, I had a customer come in for a tune-up or scope diagnosis or whatever, and they had 1 quart or less in their engine. I'm sure longevity had to be affected, but they ran fine when they left the shop. And one of those was a 4 year old Civic, a 1984 I think, with 40,000 miles. The customer had bought it new and never had the oil changed. Just put gas in it and drove it for 4 years.
Long ago I saw a segment on TV of a guy who hadn't changed his oil in many years. Once a year he'd drain it, strain it through an old tee shirt and pour it back in. He was pretty pleased with himself too. You'd think he'd discovered penicillin or cold fusion or something.
People crack me up.
#16
Reminds me of a conversation my uncle had with my grandpa when he sold an old dodge omni for him with 200k miles (slant 6) years ago..
Uncle: "So Dad, how often did you change the oil?"
Grandpa: "Oil?"
I am sure it got changed at some point, but never consciously.
Uncle: "So Dad, how often did you change the oil?"
Grandpa: "Oil?"
I am sure it got changed at some point, but never consciously.
#17
Slant 6....now that brings back memories. Bulletproof engine. But if one quit running and you suspected the timing chain, you'd better check the distributor drive gear first...it's made out of plastic, $5 part.
OH oh, Sorry, I hope you get your bike running again soon. I know what it's like to be without your bike.
OH oh, Sorry, I hope you get your bike running again soon. I know what it's like to be without your bike.
Last edited by VTRsurfer; 05-16-2010 at 10:13 PM.
#18
It's the 4.9 liter (300 cu. in.) straight six. Gear driven cam and built like a Russian brick **** house. Except for those three sets of plugs, it's cost me absolutely nothing. I expect to get at least another 250k miles out of it.
That reminds me... since it's been 50 or 60 thousand miles I should probably take a look at those spark plugs.
Last edited by RK1; 05-17-2010 at 12:40 AM.
#19
Had an uncle who bought cars new and drove them. Gas only... maybe air in the tires. Pulled various camping trailers with them, too. Got 80,000 miles out of a 67 Impala and almost 100,000 from an Olds 88, but I wouldn't have bought a used car from him.
On thread... Hondas will run and rev with little oil in them... coolant can be low too. Might get many miles out of them, but you might NOT. Nothing wrong with shredding a tire now and then tho! My '02 uses almost no oil...actually makes me nervous, since in my Civic I just change the filter and add new!
On thread... Hondas will run and rev with little oil in them... coolant can be low too. Might get many miles out of them, but you might NOT. Nothing wrong with shredding a tire now and then tho! My '02 uses almost no oil...actually makes me nervous, since in my Civic I just change the filter and add new!
#23
At first I thought the problem was you locking up the back brake before you ran into that sign, but it looks like the Helmet/goggle detector cutout switch might have saved your life. They're a bitch to reset though!
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#25
Nothing to worry about if you can live with whatever yours eats.
Last edited by lazn; 05-18-2010 at 04:16 PM.
#30
Since I don't do redline/burnouts, I guess I'd still be fine. I check my oil level at least once a week anyhow. I guess I'm just the overly cautious type. But then again I've traveled over a million miles with various bikes, cars and trucks I've owned and never seized an engine.