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mhaisten Dec 13, 2009 12:31 PM

2001 or newer instrument cluster
 
Does anyone know if you can install a 2001 or newer cluster on a 1999 VTR without rewire? I would love to have the fuel guage.

JoedresVTR Dec 13, 2009 02:23 PM

Not having a fuel guage makes riding exciting... I know that around 110 miles my reserve light will come on and I only have 21-29 miles until I run out of fuel. Kinda a rush when you are in the middle of nowhere figuring out different ways to conserve fuel.

lazn Dec 13, 2009 09:59 PM

It is not a simple swap, but it can be done:
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=18240

8541Hawk Dec 13, 2009 11:54 PM


Originally Posted by JoedresVTR (Post 246612)
Not having a fuel guage makes riding exciting... I know that around 110 miles my reserve light will come on and I only have 21-29 miles until I run out of fuel. Kinda a rush when you are in the middle of nowhere figuring out different ways to conserve fuel.

If you think that is fun wait until you're running her hard one day and the RLOD (Red Light Of Death) turns on at 80 mi...... Been there & done that..:eek:

Forde Dec 14, 2009 07:48 AM

lol, in ireland its that small a place that your never more than 20 miles from a petrol station haha

the new cluster looks badass tho

couldnt you buy a fuel guage just and install it with the sensor in the tank?

lazn Dec 14, 2009 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Forde (Post 246729)
lol, in ireland its that small a place that your never more than 20 miles from a petrol station haha

the new cluster looks badass tho

couldnt you buy a fuel guage just and install it with the sensor in the tank?

The sensor that is in the tank does not measure level, so you'd have to replace that.. and it would have to be with one matched to whatever gauge you get, and one that fits the tank. Realistically, as involved as going to the 01+ instruments is, that is the easier option.

Stevebis1 Dec 14, 2009 10:34 AM

Negatives are that the newer gauge has less arc making the spedo harder to read and the fuel gauge is not at all linear coming off full immediately and down to half shortly thereafter.
The only real gain is a clock and a second trip meter. Two trip meters on a vehicle with a 120mile range!
My suggestion - look at your watch when your filling up

mhaisten Dec 15, 2009 05:57 PM

The problem that I have had so far (new VTR owner) is that on the highway it seems to get 40 mpg @ 75 mph 4300 rpm. In town maybe 25 mpg. I have not really gotten on it too much while I am still getting to know her. So do I expect 25 MPG on the twisties with my 3.5 gallon tank? That is not very many turns before you break out the hiking shoes!

When I rode my dirt bike in the desert I carried a camelback full of gas to stretch the tank. I guess this habit won't die. Just don't take a drink!

By the way, I sold the 2001 XR 400 and took the money and bought this 99 VTR, a new helmet, a year of insurance, and the registration. People have to really rethink the value of these. There is no way this should be a $2k bike, more like $4k.

Stevebis1 Dec 15, 2009 06:12 PM

Wow! 25mpg seriously sucks. SHawks are thirsty, but I have not personally seen less than 35. Did the PO jet her? Perhaps she is running rich.
And yes the SHawk is a kick ass bike for the $$$.

mhaisten Dec 15, 2009 08:37 PM

I am sure it is a little rich. So far I have figured out PAIR removed, all smog crap removed, Yosh RS3 full stinless system, K&N filter, 43 tooth rear, steering damper. I hope to find someone knolageible in VTR totake a look at it. When I got it the vacuum line on the petcock was hooked to the drain side. Moved that to the correct position and it ran great. Now the petcock leaks from the drain side all the time. Waiting for the rebuild kit to show up.

Forde Dec 16, 2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by lazn (Post 246734)
The sensor that is in the tank does not measure level, so you'd have to replace that.. and it would have to be with one matched to whatever gauge you get, and one that fits the tank. Realistically, as involved as going to the 01+ instruments is, that is the easier option.


no i didnt mean with the sensor that is in the tank for the low level light

i meant the new sensor that comes with the new guage, put it in the tank and no probs. wiring up one sensor is very easy compared to wiring up a whole cluster

Forde Dec 16, 2009 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Stevebis1 (Post 247009)
Wow! 25mpg seriously sucks

thats just in town tho, thats not too bad.

twisties are nothing like town youll get different mpg then

8541Hawk Dec 17, 2009 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by mhaisten (Post 247030)
I am sure it is a little rich. So far I have figured out PAIR removed, all smog crap removed, Yosh RS3 full stinless system, K&N filter, 43 tooth rear, steering damper. I hope to find someone knolageible in VTR totake a look at it. When I got it the vacuum line on the petcock was hooked to the drain side. Moved that to the correct position and it ran great. Now the petcock leaks from the drain side all the time. Waiting for the rebuild kit to show up.

Well if you ever make it over to the Bay Area, give me a shout and I can help you get dialed in. ;)

lazn Dec 17, 2009 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Forde (Post 247092)
no i didnt mean with the sensor that is in the tank for the low level light

i meant the new sensor that comes with the new guage, put it in the tank and no probs. wiring up one sensor is very easy compared to wiring up a whole cluster

well be aware the newer sensor doesn't fit the older tank without some modification.

The gas tank vent tube in the older tank is in the way of the float for the sensor.. So you need to modify the float arm to make it work.

And you'd need to find a gauge that works on the same resistances as the float sensor.

Really if you read that link I gave earlier, swapping the instruments is not hard. There is just one more sensor to swap (temperature) and then it is practically plug and play with making your own adapter with the wire colors even staying the same. (excepting one)

uchi Dec 17, 2009 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by JoedresVTR (Post 246612)
Not having a fuel guage makes riding exciting... I know that around 110 miles my reserve light will come on and I only have 21-29 miles until I run out of fuel. Kinda a rush when you are in the middle of nowhere figuring out different ways to conserve fuel.


that happened to us one night, my fuel guage was jsut about to hit reserve, its 1 am, were in the middle of go damn no where. lol. someone mentioned a gas station up a road, so we went there, yeah closed, what a shock, lol.


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