Why should I wear full Gear all the time?
06-14-2009, 03:01 PM
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Back in the '80s my Aunt and Uncle hit a Black Angus cow, about 4 years old, at approx. 65 mph. Killed the cow. They limped away with bumps, bruises, sprained ankle and road rash.
You ever seen road rash from cheek to chin? Palm of hands? Butt?
Hope they made the cow into leathers!! LOL
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You ever seen road rash from cheek to chin? Palm of hands? Butt?
Hope they made the cow into leathers!! LOL
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07-18-2009, 11:44 PM
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One of the motorcycle magazines ran an article a few years ago about someone who DIED from skin infections caused by a crash under 30 mph. I guess when you grate your skin off on the pavement it's hard for the docs to get all the crap out afterward. Any time I think it's too hot, I just think of that person. And also every time I see someone riding in shorts and flip-flops. Scary, scary stuff.
07-19-2009, 07:46 PM
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07-20-2009, 09:04 AM
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i ordered boots j/ now, thats all i ve been lacking, i have a RF-1000, feildsheer flex jacket, the tall gloves, and the pants were given 2 me so dont zip in jacket but i ll get right pants soon, moneys tight ha
07-21-2009, 05:02 AM
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07-21-2009, 07:26 AM
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Ok, so I usually ride with jeans on, but after reading and seeing some of this, I started looking at riding jeans.
Most don't have armor, but have reinforced panels for abrasion resistance.
I was looking at the Icon Standard Jeans
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chap...E8D34636B1D4E0
Thoughts, comments, any users of these jeans?
Most don't have armor, but have reinforced panels for abrasion resistance.
I was looking at the Icon Standard Jeans
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chap...E8D34636B1D4E0
Thoughts, comments, any users of these jeans?
07-21-2009, 08:03 AM
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07-21-2009, 11:56 AM
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I have written about a particular idiot harley wanna be hard *** at my work before. He would give me so much crap for riding full face helmet and jacket all the time. All he would wear was a chicano style headband and a gay leather vest with some gay rocker on it. Needless to say he was fired from this job for has lazyness, go figure. Hope the headband helps when his face hits the pavement at 55 (top speed) of his hardley oil leaker ..
07-21-2009, 02:26 PM
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Ok, so I usually ride with jeans on, but after reading and seeing some of this, I started looking at riding jeans.
Most don't have armor, but have reinforced panels for abrasion resistance.
I was looking at the Icon Standard Jeans
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chap...E8D34636B1D4E0
Thoughts, comments, any users of these jeans?
Most don't have armor, but have reinforced panels for abrasion resistance.
I was looking at the Icon Standard Jeans
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chap...E8D34636B1D4E0
Thoughts, comments, any users of these jeans?
I have the Competition Accessory "Sliders" brand. Better than regular jeans, but they are heavy and hot. No air penetrates the reinforced panels and causes me to sweat in the knee and crotch area. I wear them in colder weather. Of course, they have no padding or armor but I hear some wear separate knee pads underneath.
I wear nylon overpants with CE knee armor, hip padding, and kevlar panels nowadays. Very happy with the overpants. I can wear shorts underneath and adjust the air flow if its hot or wear jeans and close them up if its cold. HTH.
07-21-2009, 06:46 PM
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Up here in new england it never gets "that" hot, Like so hot you want to sit in a kiddie pool filled with ice, in your front yard, naked. No point in going anywhere without the gear! Living this way has paid off, went down last week at about 50, sand and night rides don't mix well.I'm glad the gear was on...shitty cell pics but you all get the idea
07-21-2009, 07:04 PM
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Get's a little hot by the beach here in New England, I'm in RI. Couple of days last year, it was miserably hot for here, nothing compared to AZ, but dry and hot and sweltering even in my mesh jacket.
If you're ever down this way Navy8ter, hit me up.
RunRowdy, yes it did help. I think I'll look at the Icon pants or another breathable textile with armor for riding. Thanks for the input.
If you're ever down this way Navy8ter, hit me up.
RunRowdy, yes it did help. I think I'll look at the Icon pants or another breathable textile with armor for riding. Thanks for the input.
07-21-2009, 09:19 PM
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Get's a little hot by the beach here in New England, I'm in RI. Couple of days last year, it was miserably hot for here, nothing compared to AZ, but dry and hot and sweltering even in my mesh jacket.
If you're ever down this way Navy8ter, hit me up.
RunRowdy, yes it did help. I think I'll look at the Icon pants or another breathable textile with armor for riding. Thanks for the input.
If you're ever down this way Navy8ter, hit me up.
RunRowdy, yes it did help. I think I'll look at the Icon pants or another breathable textile with armor for riding. Thanks for the input.
07-21-2009, 09:34 PM
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For those that don't have any knee/shin protection a cheap and very effective aid is a pair of mountainbike knee/shinguards. I have a few used pairs from Fox I bought. Wear them under my pants when I'm not using them riding my mountainbike. Saved me ALOT of grief the last time I lowsided a few years ago. Got up and walked away instead of peeling my kneecap off. Think I paid around $30 on ebay. Get some!
07-22-2009, 03:48 AM
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07-29-2009, 05:18 PM
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Up here in new england it never gets "that" hot, Like so hot you want to sit in a kiddie pool filled with ice, in your front yard, naked. No point in going anywhere without the gear! Living this way has paid off, went down last week at about 50, sand and night rides don't mix well.I'm glad the gear was on...shitty cell pics but you all get the idea
****, maybe I should replace the t-rex sliders with a crash cage.
09-27-2009, 07:35 PM
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Ok, so I usually ride with jeans on, but after reading and seeing some of this, I started looking at riding jeans.
Most don't have armor, but have reinforced panels for abrasion resistance.
I was looking at the Icon Standard Jeans
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chap...E8D34636B1D4E0
Thoughts, comments, any users of these jeans?
Most don't have armor, but have reinforced panels for abrasion resistance.
I was looking at the Icon Standard Jeans
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chap...E8D34636B1D4E0
Thoughts, comments, any users of these jeans?
Havent tried those, but i bought the "Icon victory riding jeans" and honestly.... i have a pair of jeans from old navy that are thicker and IMO, would offer better protection. I wont buy them again.
09-27-2009, 08:23 PM
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I crashed 20+ years ago on a freeway transition road (oil or diesel fuel) with my leather jacket bungee'd to my seat. Lucky for me I was wearing a sweatshirt. I usually rode home from work during summer in a t-shirt back then.
09-29-2009, 06:52 AM
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+1 on the AGATT. For those of you that don't know, road rash is more painful and takes longer to heal than broken bones. Think about those thousands of nerve endings in your skin all getting exposed via asphalt grinding wheel. Know what they do to ya in ER? Scrub the **** out of you with a brillo pad to remove all the dirt and gravel that was force fed into your flesh. Then you get the fun of having a 2 square foot scab that oozes and cracks every time you blink. Can take months to heal fully. Bones will knit in a matter of weeks. Not to mention all the little pieces they missed in ER that slowly seep up to the surface of your giant scab, necessitating more scrubbing etc. Do yourself a favor and gear yourself up and your passenger. A little sweat is better than road rash any day of the week.
Also a little PSA regarding jeans. While the "riding" jeans offer more protection than regular jeans, they will still shred and lead to road rash sooner than leather or textile. Was looking for the link to a site that documented a bunch of crashes with jeans and they did not hold up well, even the Draggin, Icon, etc. Couldn't find it, but just a friendly word from a motorcycle saftey instructor : dress for the crash, not the ride and wear all gear all the time.
Also a little PSA regarding jeans. While the "riding" jeans offer more protection than regular jeans, they will still shred and lead to road rash sooner than leather or textile. Was looking for the link to a site that documented a bunch of crashes with jeans and they did not hold up well, even the Draggin, Icon, etc. Couldn't find it, but just a friendly word from a motorcycle saftey instructor : dress for the crash, not the ride and wear all gear all the time.
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09-29-2009, 08:35 AM
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I haven't been down on my motorcycle yet *knock on wood* but i was out cycling last month and got cut off by some dumbshit and ended up shattering my kneecap. needless to say, i will be doing some shopping for lower body protection this winter so as to not get myself banged up in case of a riding accident when i can finally break the Hawk out again.
left a nice impression on that guys hood. thank god for having helmet culture beaten into my skull...
i guess my point is, if i can be turning pedals at 15-18 MPH and manage a debilitating injury that benched me for half the summer... there really is no justification for not going full gear all the time on a bike of the motorized sort. I'm not saying anything that others havent already said, just trying to reenforce the idea of AGATT. be safe!
left a nice impression on that guys hood. thank god for having helmet culture beaten into my skull...
i guess my point is, if i can be turning pedals at 15-18 MPH and manage a debilitating injury that benched me for half the summer... there really is no justification for not going full gear all the time on a bike of the motorized sort. I'm not saying anything that others havent already said, just trying to reenforce the idea of AGATT. be safe!
09-29-2009, 09:46 AM
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Info on nylon overpants
Runrowdy,
Can you provide more info on the nylon overpants. I have to wear dress pants to work and would ride to work more if I had something I could remove easily and store in my tail bag.
Can you provide more info on the nylon overpants. I have to wear dress pants to work and would ride to work more if I had something I could remove easily and store in my tail bag.
09-29-2009, 03:12 PM
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i need boots, havent found a pair i like yet so for now i ride in columbia high top hiking boots. theyre great and durable. but ive got evreythign else. i dont get the idiots who ride in penut helmets. sure you look stupid and everyone laughs,but the biggest thing is prooving how cool you are by taking bugs and rocks off the face at speed. i for one know how much i dislike taking a big in the neck at 60 mph i cant imagine enjoying it any more in the face or down the throat
09-29-2009, 08:21 PM
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I have all the gear. Except for "motorcycle" boots. I bought a pair of very lightweight, waterproof, side zip tactical boots from Big 5 Sporting goods for $40. In my opinion, they will do the job just as well as any WAY overpriced bike boot...
09-30-2009, 06:15 AM
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Not trying to be a dick, but I disagree. Proper riding footwear is just as important as the rest of your gear. I'm sure work boots are more protective than Vans or flip flops, but they are certainly not designed for riding or the forces that come into play when you crash. Riding boots are designed for just that. I see a lot of riders whose protection stops at the waist. They invest in a quality helmet, jacket and gloves but neglect the pants and boots. The longer you ride and more knowledge you aquire, the more gear you invest in. I know times are tight, but that extra $50 for decent riding shoes is worth it if it prevents serious injury. I ask my students this question all the time: how much is your personal safety worth to you? FYI, if you shop around deals can be had. Example: I recently purchased a pair of $150 Alpinestar lace up, work boot style riding shoes for $50 on sale at Cycle Gear. They were last year's model, but who cares? They work great as range shoes when I teach the MSF classes. Comfortable to walk in, but plenty of protection when riding the demos. OK, Safety **** is out.
09-30-2009, 05:58 PM
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Agreed! Most think of motorcycle accidents as deadly and assumed to be final.
Not true.
The most common severe injuries are to hands and feet. Go to youtube and look at the crashes. Hands and feet just flailing about.
Like is said - shop the sales, the season ends, be determined about what you want. Pay special attention to the size charts and return policies.
All the gear - all the time. You do want to hold a spoon when you're 70 right?
Not true.
The most common severe injuries are to hands and feet. Go to youtube and look at the crashes. Hands and feet just flailing about.
Like is said - shop the sales, the season ends, be determined about what you want. Pay special attention to the size charts and return policies.
All the gear - all the time. You do want to hold a spoon when you're 70 right?
09-30-2009, 08:37 PM
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For those that don't have any knee/shin protection a cheap and very effective aid is a pair of mountainbike knee/shinguards. I have a few used pairs from Fox I bought. Wear them under my pants when I'm not using them riding my mountainbike. Saved me ALOT of grief the last time I lowsided a few years ago. Got up and walked away instead of peeling my kneecap off. Think I paid around $30 on ebay. Get some!
Icon Field armour, fits amazing, u forget you're wearing it. i wear it under my jeans or my textile pants along with NEXO boots and either my Teknic leather jacket or JR textile...
i've gone down once, a low side and my knees got messed up, gone down a second time at 60mph and the jeans were shredded at the knee point, but the knee armour took all of the damage. i was fine cept for a bit of rash where the glove wore through on the palm
10-03-2009, 04:57 PM
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Not trying to be a dick, but I disagree. Proper riding footwear is just as important as the rest of your gear. I'm sure work boots are more protective than Vans or flip flops, but they are certainly not designed for riding or the forces that come into play when you crash. Riding boots are designed for just that. I see a lot of riders whose protection stops at the waist. They invest in a quality helmet, jacket and gloves but neglect the pants and boots. The longer you ride and more knowledge you aquire, the more gear you invest in. I know times are tight, but that extra $50 for decent riding shoes is worth it if it prevents serious injury. I ask my students this question all the time: how much is your personal safety worth to you? FYI, if you shop around deals can be had. Example: I recently purchased a pair of $150 Alpinestar lace up, work boot style riding shoes for $50 on sale at Cycle Gear. They were last year's model, but who cares? They work great as range shoes when I teach the MSF classes. Comfortable to walk in, but plenty of protection when riding the demos. OK, Safety **** is out.
The more expensive boots can only protect from rash a little longer. They can not prevent a crush or dismemberment injury any better than the cheapies.
