Not impressed with Shoei face shields/visors.
09-15-2008, 09:07 AM
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Not impressed with Shoei face shields/visors.
Anyone else have beef with these?
I've tried two different new Shoei RF1000 helmets, the visors fog up worse than any other visor I've used, and have poor clarity. Makes night riding difficult at times and the UV coating seems to make it worse, and they seem to soak up every finger print or spec of grime. Defogger spray doesn't seem to help.
I had two cheapo Scorpions, two different KBCs for a few weeks, and tried my g/f's Arai, no issues with these ones.
I love the fit of the helmet, except for the massive airflow behind my ears that gets deafening. I'm going to try ear plugs and a different visor.
Any recommendations?
I've tried two different new Shoei RF1000 helmets, the visors fog up worse than any other visor I've used, and have poor clarity. Makes night riding difficult at times and the UV coating seems to make it worse, and they seem to soak up every finger print or spec of grime. Defogger spray doesn't seem to help.
I had two cheapo Scorpions, two different KBCs for a few weeks, and tried my g/f's Arai, no issues with these ones.
I love the fit of the helmet, except for the massive airflow behind my ears that gets deafening. I'm going to try ear plugs and a different visor.
Any recommendations?
09-15-2008, 09:26 AM
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I have a cheapo Z1R.. the wind noise is loud. Is this the case with most helmets? I ask cause you mentioned the wind noise..
I ride with the visor cracked ALL the time, cause if I dont it fogs up on me..
I ride with the visor cracked ALL the time, cause if I dont it fogs up on me..
09-15-2008, 09:36 AM
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I have issues with the fogging, but not clarity. I use Plexus and clean the faceshield often, and when it's clean, it's like it's not there as far as how clear it is.
I have a replacement chin curtain on, see if that helps with wind flow.
I ordered a Foggy from aerostich.com, it will definitley help with the fogging as it gets colder.
I have a replacement chin curtain on, see if that helps with wind flow.
I ordered a Foggy from aerostich.com, it will definitley help with the fogging as it gets colder.
09-15-2008, 09:42 AM
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I use "never fog" on my RF900 and 700 before and no complaints - clarity is very good with the clear and the blue irridium shields I have for it. I haven't tried a 1000 so I cannot compare it to the older models.
09-15-2008, 09:45 AM
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Ditto on the use of Plexus. If your not using this product, you should. It seals the pores in the plastic. That is how it works so well. Think... plexiglass. It was made for the airline industry. My Shoei X-11 doesn't fog up at all when I use it and the bugs come right off when I use it as a cleaner. Use ear plugs to keep the high frequency wind noise from making your ears ring.
09-15-2008, 10:00 AM
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+2 I use plexus on the windscreen, sure does seem to help the bugs to come off easier.
Ditto on the use of Plexus. If your not using this product, you should. It seals the pores in the plastic. That is how it works so well. Think... plexiglass. It was made for the airline industry. My Shoei X-11 doesn't fog up at all when I use it and the bugs come right off when I use it as a cleaner. Use ear plugs to keep the high frequency wind noise from making your ears ring.
09-15-2008, 01:09 PM
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09-15-2008, 04:24 PM
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I have the nose piece thing on my Shoei. It doesn't fog much at all. I do use anti-fog on the inside and reapply every other month or so. I figured the chin curtain would trap moist exhale air and make fog-up worse, so I never tried it.
09-16-2008, 06:44 AM
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I have had the Chris Vermeulen replica (shoei x-11) for over a year and I love it. No problems whatsoever and the quality is top notch. My Arai actually fogs up more than my shoei.I put fog x on the inside of it though and when its cold i have a Respro fog guard for both.
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...BLK&tier2=3118
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...BLK&tier2=3118
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09-16-2008, 09:30 AM
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09-17-2008, 12:55 PM
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I may try some rain-X, thats some good stuff... although it's so good that it might make your wiper blades on your car chatter, so I'd avoid it there, especially on an older car.
09-24-2008, 12:43 PM
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The wind comes in mind from under and behind my ears, I need some sort of curtain around the back. I have a long ride this weekend, I'll just use earplugs for now. I feel like I've already damaged my hearing in 10 months of riding without ear protection.
12-02-2008, 09:15 AM
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Shoei breath guard.
You should be wearing ear plugs no matter what helmet you have. Even with "quiet" helmets, you get way too much wind noise over 50 mph.
I have an RF-1000 and I don't have the slightest issue with the visors. Whenever I look at an Arai or especially HJC I'm always struck by the quality of the Shoei. This is compared to three AGVs, two Shoeis, an X-Lite, an Arai, and probably something I'm forgetting.
12-02-2008, 02:26 PM
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I'm using that already. Wish it was a rubber piece like my Scorpion, that foam one damages easily.
Also the mechanism to crack open the visor on the RF1000 is garbage.
This is the 2nd Shoei I've broke one on, they only seem to last a few months at most. The detent either wears off and doesn't hold the visor open, or the plastic on it cracks and doesn't hold tension on it.
Also the mechanism to crack open the visor on the RF1000 is garbage.
This is the 2nd Shoei I've broke one on, they only seem to last a few months at most. The detent either wears off and doesn't hold the visor open, or the plastic on it cracks and doesn't hold tension on it.
12-02-2008, 08:40 PM
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If you spent $500-$800 for a Snell helmet, read it and weep-
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html
Motorcycle Helmet Design, Helmet Standards and Head Protection - Gear Box - Motorcyclist Online
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/ge...iew/index.html
Motorcycle Helmet Design, Helmet Standards and Head Protection - Gear Box - Motorcyclist Online
12-04-2008, 07:31 PM
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My rf 1000 fogs up a bit I use plexus for cleaning as well but for the months I know it will fog up I use scott anti fog cleaner, the more you use it the better it works.
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...=TUC_55-6105_G
As for the read it and weep I think we've all read that article by now and we can all have our own opinons on it besides that there's more to a helmet then what they're testing like ventilation and aerodynamics. Sorry but when I'm doing 150 down the back straight I'm not going to trust my head to a $60 Wal-Mart helmet that will rattle my teeth from buffeting. Most tracks won't even let you on with a helmet like that, different riding requires different gear. Some of the points are valid which is why Snell is adapting new standards but to judge a helmet by just that article eh.
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...=TUC_55-6105_G
As for the read it and weep I think we've all read that article by now and we can all have our own opinons on it besides that there's more to a helmet then what they're testing like ventilation and aerodynamics. Sorry but when I'm doing 150 down the back straight I'm not going to trust my head to a $60 Wal-Mart helmet that will rattle my teeth from buffeting. Most tracks won't even let you on with a helmet like that, different riding requires different gear. Some of the points are valid which is why Snell is adapting new standards but to judge a helmet by just that article eh.
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12-04-2008, 07:35 PM
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I have had the Chris Vermeulen replica (shoei x-11) for over a year and I love it. No problems whatsoever and the quality is top notch. My Arai actually fogs up more than my shoei.I put fog x on the inside of it though and when its cold i have a Respro fog guard for both.
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...BLK&tier2=3118
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...BLK&tier2=3118
12-04-2008, 07:51 PM
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My rf 1000 fogs up a bit I use plexus for cleaning as well but for the months I know it will fog up I use scott anti fog cleaner, the more you use it the better it works.
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...=TUC_55-6105_G
As for the read it and weep I think we've all read that article by now and we can all have our own opinons on it besides that there's more to a helmet then what they're testing like ventilation and aerodynamics. Sorry but when I'm doing 150 down the back straight I'm not going to trust my head to a $60 Wal-Mart helmet that will rattle my teeth from buffeting. Most tracks won't even let you on with a helmet like that, different riding requires different gear. Some of the points are valid which is why Snell is adapting new standards but to judge a helmet by just that article eh.
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1...=TUC_55-6105_G
As for the read it and weep I think we've all read that article by now and we can all have our own opinons on it besides that there's more to a helmet then what they're testing like ventilation and aerodynamics. Sorry but when I'm doing 150 down the back straight I'm not going to trust my head to a $60 Wal-Mart helmet that will rattle my teeth from buffeting. Most tracks won't even let you on with a helmet like that, different riding requires different gear. Some of the points are valid which is why Snell is adapting new standards but to judge a helmet by just that article eh.
1) I was trying to have some fun and stir the pot a bit.
2) I firmly believe your brain is better served/protected by a DOT helmet than a Snell.
3) If you are on a tight budget and your primary concern is protecting your head, the $80 Bell from Walmart will serve you as well as any $500 lid.
PS I'll bet 90%+ of guys who ride never read that "blowing the lid off" article. If you can afford and really want a helmet that costs six or eight hundred dollars, by all means go for it. Just don't believe you need to spend that much to protect your head. Lot of guys don't have $600 for a helmet and shouldn't feel bad about it.
Last edited by RK1; 12-04-2008 at 08:00 PM.
