cliby

well, said. its longstanding unwillingness to deal with some very real problems that have gotten us here: and while its human nature, planning for those long term problems is one job of government: to provide the long range visions and goals.

drew_c14

lol, true enough...

cliby

I would have said the reagan years experience was exactly what disproved these ideas.

drew_c14

I hear that all the time, guess it just depends on ones viewpoint. I was far to young to know first hand, can only go on what I've read and seen.

cliby

I think 95% of all of this is theory and the results can by spun into all kinds of directions. scientifically, I think its (oil,,,,, and lotto dollars) a limited resource in the long run and we are using it fat dumb and happy with not much concern for what next.

killer5280

Government is the source of all of our problems. Whatever problems government is charged with solving always get worse and always require more and more resources being thrown at them, regardless of which branch of the Imperial party, the Republicans or the Democrats, is in power. This includes the phony War on Drugs, the War on Terror, the War on Poverty, public education, public welfare, etc. Providing government with more money, whether or not one believes that cutting the tax rate and increasing tax revenue to the government is a good idea, is exactly the wrong thing to do. Making government smaller, less powerful, less regulatory, less intrusive, etc., by radically defunding it is the only solution to our economic problems. Our government should be several orders of magnitude smaller than it is now.
The debt, which is owed to the Federal Reserve and has been pawned off on the rest of the world, should be repudiated because it is owed to criminals and has been created by fraud; the Federal Reserve and other central banks of the world are nothing more than criminal enterprises who have set themselves up with monopolies on the issuance of credit for their respective countries. The Federal Reserve Act should be repealed and its board of directors, chairmen and former chairmen should be investigated and tried (and convicted) for crimes against this country and its people.
The issuance of credit and currency should be restored to the Treasury and should be issued free of debt. Of course, all this is unlikely to happen and this country will continue down the same path to debt and destruction that it has been on for the past century or so, with boom and bust cycles artificially created by the Wall Street and Fed money boys, and with the end result being the complete meltdown of our economy and nearly all wealth concentrated in the hands of a few banks and corporations.


On February 9, 1935, this appeared in the Saturday Evening Post:

1. "I do not feel it is any exaggeration to speak of our secret expedition to Jekyll Island as the occasion of the actual conception of what eventually became the Federal Reserve System. We were told to leave our last names behind us. We were told further that we should avoid dining together on the night of our departure.

1. "We were instructed to come one at a time and as unobtrusively as possible to the railroad terminal on the New Jersey littoral of the Hudson where Senator Aldrich's private car would be in readiness attached to the rear-end of a train to the south. Once aboard the private car we began to observe the taboo that had been fixed on last names. We addressed one another as Ben, Paul, Nelson and Abe. Davison and I adopted even deeper disguises abandoning our first names.

1. "On the theory that we were always right, he became Wilbur and I became Orville after those two aviation pioneers the Wright brothers. The servants and train crew may have known the identities of one or two of us, but they did not know all and it was the names of all printed together that would've made our mysterious journey significant in Washington, in Wall Street, even in London. Discovery we knew simply must not happen."

Frank Vanderlip, President of the National City Bank of New York

1. “The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers.”
   - Congressman Louis T. McFadden (speaking in the Senate)

1. "By remaining behind the scenes, they (the Rothschilds) were able to avoid the brunt of public anger which was directed, instead, at the political figures which they largely controlled. This is a technique which has been practiced by financial manipulators ever since, and it is fully utilized by those who operate the Federal Reserve System today."
   - G. Edward Griffin

1. "This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson} signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."
   - Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

1. “The dollar represents a one dollar debt to the Federal Reserve System. The Federal Reserve Banks create money out of thin air to buy Government Bonds from the U.S. Treasury...[thus creating] out of nothing a...debt which the American people are obliged to pay with interest.”
   - Congressman Wright Patman

http://www.fdrs.org/financial_slaves.html
http://www.themoneymasters.com/

Jim TT