1971allchaos

Over 32 years of riding a motorcycle. And I have deserved every ticket (2 tickets) I have recieved.. And this is coming from a guy -that his own father will not get in a vehicle with me behind the wheel.. And I have been a Law officers...
There is two sides to every story... And the SQUIDS always bitch, and WHINE the most..

masterhacker1989

As i said the cop wrote me a ticket without even asking me if i had another rider in my group, that is what im pissed about, that is a dick move. He even acknowledged seeing my buddy go by first and said i have to deal with it in court.

him showing up at my place of work is ridiculous, I looked like a *** talking to a cop outside of the plant. that is absolutely unprofessional, Its a load of horse **** being issued a ticket when I had another rider who was 27 whose had a license for 4 years, me being immature has nothing to do with that (i would say I'm more bipolar than immature anyways)

as far as the speeding ticket goes, yeah i deserve that I was speeding, , like i said now me and my buddy have to go to traffic court at 9am we both work 3rd shift, so we will have to stay up late, traffic court by me takes at a bare minim 1 1/2 hours some times as much as 3, which means that I wont even get home till around noon, and i probably wont get to sleep until around 1, and i wake up ay 6, so i think i have any right to be pissed about it

RWhisen

Not surprisingly the sympathy level for you is not very high. Your buddy screwed you, make sure he doesn't do it again and that he shows up in court.

masterhacker1989

geez you guys really know how to kill a good rant...

I don't see how my buddy screwed me, we were like a mile away from work, and he didn't pay attention, for literaly a minute or two, again like I said I was issued a ticket for something i didn't do, which is why im pissed

Lets say your issued a ticket for smoking crack, and you have never smoked crack once before in your life would you be a little ticked off?

Wicky

Well you were meant to be under the supervision* of the licensed rider/buddy. Who was presumably also speeding and not paying attention where you were ...or knowing you were both speeding left you to take the consequences...

RWhisen

Not paying attention for "literally a minute or two" is not having you under supervision as he was required to do. If he had stopped when you stopped, the officer would have seen him and not issued you a citation for that offense. I agree that 8 miles an hour is pretty chicken-"shiite" however some officers enforce a little more stringently than others. You'll have the opportunity in court to tell your side however I would do some research on what the law requires from your "riding supervisor" before I went before the judge.

HRCA#1

Exactly how does one "surpervise" another rider when you are on different vehicles?

racer187x

How do you not notice that a cop is pulling your buddy over that is right behind you, at night? You got pulled over, how easy was it to notice the flashing red and blues? They're f'n bright for a reason! Buddy seems iffy to me.

Wicky

"he said he didn't even notice till he got to work i wasn't behind him"

If masterhacker1989 had gone off the road into a ditch who would have noticed and pulled him out?*

In this case the supervising rider seems not to have noticed and didn't turn back to go back over the route even when he arrived at his destination and noticed his absent buddy.

Though I take your point it can be problematic to fully supervise a learner without an intercom. I see it here in the UK where instructors following their charges through town getting split up by traffic lights. Normal SOP is the the leading rider (the learner) pulls over when they get separated so the instructor can catch up and regroup.

* Last year there was a VTR rideout weekend in Wales and a group failed to notice till they got back that one of the group had failed to return. Only later did they find out that he'd crashed on a damp road, on the last leg of the route, breaking his wrist - thankfully receiving prompt treatment from locals at the scene before folk had returned to find him already carted off in an ambulance..

Here's the thread

www.vtr1000.org • View topic - Operation Storm II - Rhan dau - 20th-22nd May 2011

nath981

I understand your anger, been there many times and here's what i learned. Tickets and fines are part of riding. Some cops are ******, some are cool. Don't matter, generally you lose. It's like if someone crosses over into your lane and wipes you out, you did nothing wrong but still you lose. You aren't riding on your road. Cops and other drivers own it because no matter who's right or wrong, you lose.

I could write a book on all the tickets I've had and the small fortune in fines I've paid, and I've been pissed and even crazed when they were taking the money i suffered so hard to earn. But over time you learn that it's part of the deal, it's the cost of doing business so to speak. For the twenty years and 2 million miles of OTR trucking, I averaged nearly $2000 a year in fines, and that was part of the learning process. Consider it an opportunity, growing from adversity, paying to go to college, etc., and it will make you smarter.

If you were that cop and two bikes went speeding through your area, you would likely pursue them because of ego if nothing else, and/or you may be thinking that other drivers who see you and them may wonder if bikers are somehow exempt from the laws everyone else must abide by.

As far as revenge plan, do yourself a favor and forget about it, esp. now that you've announced it, that is, unless you've recently been diagnosed with a terminal disease in which case you won't have to be concerned with multiplying your problems and spending time in the big house.

George H Hill

He could have had your bike impounded, and pushed the law on you a lot harder. But he didn't, and all you have to do is tell the court you where riding with someone, and you'll get off that part of the ticket.
Sounds like he is a nice guy... the kind of Officer you want in your area.

I used to wear a badge... and a lot of my friends do. Talk like yours... Not cool. I understand you are upset, but consider everything else and take in the big picture. What would you do if you pulled over a kid speeding and was riding illegal on top of it? Remember - Your JOB is enforcing the law.

nuhawk

I had to look at your location to make sure you weren't talking about a friend of mine. There's a local DPS Trooper with a similar last name that cruises here. We first met after an incident where a driver was attempting to cut me off in a lane change. I was *****-to-the-wall on the throttle and over the hill comes Mike. I looked in the mirror and saw him Uey, I made it to my intersection and turned, pulled over parked the bike and waited for him. His only comment was "You both were speeding but you were faster." I explained the situation, he checked my documents and wrote me a warning ticket. As it turns out he's best friends with the son (also DPS Trooper) of a client of mine (for decades) who is a decorated Vietnam vet, Colonel in the Marine Corps.

These guys bust bad-guy *** day in and day out. Collect your stuff and go to court. Having a newbie attitude about the very people that try to keep it safe out there needs to change.

8 mph??? I was probably 30 over. They're not unreasonable people. Only doing the job that they take an oath to serve.

HRCA#1

I usually avoid commenting on "Rants" cause that's just what they are and often somewhat devisive but in thinking about this I am reminded of an old Geoge Carlin joke.

"It's the cops job to catch me and my job not to get caught! If a cop didn't see it I didn't do it!"

Now having said that I don't recall ever getting a ticket I didn't deserve, or as my friends used to tell me I should get one every time I got on my bike!!
Fortunately I do my job pretty good.

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