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03-14-2009, 10:23 AM
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03-14-2009, 10:40 AM
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No but how many riders can really jump from bike to bike and series to series and keep winning like that? And right off the bat too. The list is short and some of the best riders in the world aren't on it. Alot of guys have left here bound for greatness and it just didn't happen for them, even if maybe not always their fault entirely. But I think the sun's shining of Spies and I think he may realize what many others fell short at. Too bad Mladin never got a second chance on the world stage.
03-14-2009, 12:58 PM
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No but how many riders can really jump from bike to bike and series to series and keep winning like that? And right off the bat too. The list is short and some of the best riders in the world aren't on it. Alot of guys have left here bound for greatness and it just didn't happen for them, even if maybe not always their fault entirely. But I think the sun's shining of Spies and I think he may realize what many others fell short at. Too bad Mladin never got a second chance on the world stage.
03-14-2009, 03:01 PM
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03-15-2009, 08:46 PM
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Yeah. Mladin is exactly where he wants to be. He doesn't have to travel 8,000 miles a week, everybody he has to deal with speaks English. Between racing, endorsements and his own businesses he's making well over seven million dollars per year. Poor bastard!
03-15-2009, 10:27 PM
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I stayed up till midnight last night to watch race 1 on Speed...what the hell kind of scheduling is that? I couldn't stay awake for race 2, but figured it was better than 50% that Spies would get the double.
I love how he put some distance between himself and Biaggi and Haga as soon as he had the lead.
And how about Biaggi on the Aprilia?
I love how he put some distance between himself and Biaggi and Haga as soon as he had the lead.
And how about Biaggi on the Aprilia?
03-16-2009, 07:45 AM
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I stayed up till midnight last night to watch race 1 on Speed...what the hell kind of scheduling is that? I couldn't stay awake for race 2, but figured it was better than 50% that Spies would get the double.
I love how he put some distance between himself and Biaggi and Haga as soon as he had the lead.
And how about Biaggi on the Aprilia?
I love how he put some distance between himself and Biaggi and Haga as soon as he had the lead.
And how about Biaggi on the Aprilia?
Til Midnight? They were on Saturday during the afternoon, back to back.
03-16-2009, 09:12 AM
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Have you guys noticed the anger of the other podium guys. Haga is PISSED! Biaggi is so disgusted that he refused to say ben's name in the first race interview, and they didnt even show him in race 3. I re-state; the rest of the racing world doesnt like the US guys. Did you hear jonathon green dis jason pridmore last year? "welcome to world SBK with the big boys" etc. No offense to him but pridmore was over even in AMA. Look at hodgson (SBK champ) who came to ama & flopped (or at least didnt win) AMERICA-WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!
03-16-2009, 10:50 AM
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Have you guys noticed the anger of the other podium guys. Haga is PISSED! Biaggi is so disgusted that he refused to say ben's name in the first race interview, and they didnt even show him in race 3. I re-state; the rest of the racing world doesnt like the US guys. Did you hear jonathon green dis jason pridmore last year? "welcome to world SBK with the big boys" etc. No offense to him but pridmore was over even in AMA. Look at hodgson (SBK champ) who came to ama & flopped (or at least didnt win) AMERICA-WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!
Colin Edwards has always seemed to have a lot of fan support in Europe. And I'd have to say the same for Nicky Haden from some of the Brit mags I've read. Most of the Nicky haters are here in the US. He's gotten alot more respect over there, I think, because so many Americans judge him or are embarrassed by his accent. All you have do is listen to the guy to see he really "gets" the technical part of the sport, too. The Euros tend to accept his accent/grammar quirks as just "local color", I think.
And one of the announcers at the Qatar WSBK race was literally gushing admiration for Ben Spies, talking about how he (the announcer) had lived & gone to school in Texas.
So I think this "the world hates us " stuff is a misperception. Of course there is a lot of nationalistic pride in WSBK and MotoGP, but I think the rest of the world is pretty fair to the American competitors.
Now when we become arrogant about how the US is so much better than the rest of the world... well, I'm sure that can **** some people off.... and rightly so.
03-16-2009, 11:10 AM
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I think you're reading way too much into this.
Colin Edwards has always seemed to have a lot of fan support in Europe. And I'd have to say the same for Nicky Haden from some of the Brit mags I've read. Most of the Nicky haters are here in the US. He's gotten alot more respect over there, I think, because so many Americans judge him or are embarrassed by his accent. All you have do is listen to the guy to see he really "gets" the technical part of the sport, too. The Euros tend to accept his accent/grammar quirks as just "local color", I think.
And one of the announcers at the Qatar WSBK race was literally gushing admiration for Ben Spies, talking about how he (the announcer) had lived & gone to school in Texas.
So I think this "the world hates us " stuff is a misperception. Of course there is a lot of nationalistic pride in WSBK and MotoGP, but I think the rest of the world is pretty fair to the American competitors.
Now when we become arrogant about how the US is so much better than the rest of the world... well, I'm sure that can **** some people off.... and rightly so.
Colin Edwards has always seemed to have a lot of fan support in Europe. And I'd have to say the same for Nicky Haden from some of the Brit mags I've read. Most of the Nicky haters are here in the US. He's gotten alot more respect over there, I think, because so many Americans judge him or are embarrassed by his accent. All you have do is listen to the guy to see he really "gets" the technical part of the sport, too. The Euros tend to accept his accent/grammar quirks as just "local color", I think.
And one of the announcers at the Qatar WSBK race was literally gushing admiration for Ben Spies, talking about how he (the announcer) had lived & gone to school in Texas.
So I think this "the world hates us " stuff is a misperception. Of course there is a lot of nationalistic pride in WSBK and MotoGP, but I think the rest of the world is pretty fair to the American competitors.
Now when we become arrogant about how the US is so much better than the rest of the world... well, I'm sure that can **** some people off.... and rightly so.
03-17-2009, 01:55 AM
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I don't think it is Nicky Hayden's accent per se people look down on. It's his hillbillie grammar. He ain't got and don't have no unnerstandin' of English grammar. Doesn't mean **** to me. He's a bright guy, great racer and knows what he's doing. Some people just get hung up on the fact that he speaks American hillbillie instead of proper English.
03-17-2009, 05:48 AM
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I am basing my observations on all the europeans that live here in NYC. They just feel that since they have been doing racing for more generations that they are better. It also doesnt help that nascar is our idea of auto racing, they compare that to F1 and rally cars & laugh. They are somewhat right about that. They also take biking way more seriously in euro land. both on the street with the respect two wheelers get and the zillions of fans at the races
03-17-2009, 08:06 AM
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This is the euro-place I like to go for racing news. There are always lots of great quotes & pics.
http://www.crash.net/
They even cover NASCAR, but don't cover AMA. Don't get that, really. If I had to pick one auto raciing series to watch it would be V8 Supercars in Australia.
http://www.crash.net/
They even cover NASCAR, but don't cover AMA. Don't get that, really. If I had to pick one auto raciing series to watch it would be V8 Supercars in Australia.
03-17-2009, 09:04 AM
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I don't think it is Nicky Hayden's accent per se people look down on. It's his hillbillie grammar. He ain't got and don't have no unnerstandin' of English grammar. Doesn't mean **** to me. He's a bright guy, great racer and knows what he's doing. Some people just get hung up on the fact that he speaks American hillbillie instead of proper English.
Some Brits, like James Tosland, don't exactly speak the "Queen's English" either.
03-17-2009, 01:14 PM
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I was thinking, and biaggi must be ready to blow his brains out. he starts off as the top dog in moto gp and then along comes this phenom kid on a yamaha(eventually), and just rolls right over him and everybody else. ok, after enough seasons of getting pounded on but the brat with the big bang I-4, he leaves and goes to WSBK where he can once again be top dog, and...what just happened? oh ****.
03-17-2009, 02:09 PM
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The old Roman Emperor never achieved the glory his title implied and to be no less upstaged by an Urbino peasant. So the fallen but still dangerous emperor may be rearing his head above all but cowboy from a mythical place also shaped like an even bigger boot.
I was thinking, and biaggi must be ready to blow his brains out. he starts off as the top dog in moto gp and then along comes this phenom kid on a yamaha(eventually), and just rolls right over him and everybody else. ok, after enough seasons of getting pounded on but the brat with the big bang I-4, he leaves and goes to WSBK where he can once again be top dog, and...what just happened? oh ****.
03-17-2009, 02:54 PM
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I was thinking, and biaggi must be ready to blow his brains out. he starts off as the top dog in moto gp and then along comes this phenom kid on a yamaha(eventually), and just rolls right over him and everybody else. ok, after enough seasons of getting pounded on but the brat with the big bang I-4, he leaves and goes to WSBK where he can once again be top dog, and...what just happened? oh ****.
rossi had his number... those were fun races ! just like seti, fast rider but lacks the mental game to be on top.
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03-17-2009, 03:37 PM
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Are we waxing poetic on the Forum now?
03-17-2009, 04:13 PM
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03-17-2009, 04:23 PM
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Have you guys noticed the anger of the other podium guys. Haga is PISSED! Biaggi is so disgusted that he refused to say ben's name in the first race interview, and they didnt even show him in race 3. I re-state; the rest of the racing world doesnt like the US guys. Did you hear jonathon green dis jason pridmore last year? "welcome to world SBK with the big boys" etc. No offense to him but pridmore was over even in AMA. Look at hodgson (SBK champ) who came to ama & flopped (or at least didnt win) AMERICA-WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!
03-18-2009, 08:00 PM
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I agree. Everyone thought that this was Haga's year to win it with Bayliss out of the picture. Then out of nowhere this rookie is kicking everyone's ***. I predict Biachii will crash Spies out of a race well before this season is over. He did it to Haga two years ago effectively costing him the championship, and has already run Ben off the track in Phillip Island race 1. Yeah, Ben would have won that race too, judging by his race-end lap times.
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