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Old 02-04-2014, 05:40 PM
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Old 02-04-2014, 05:42 PM
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Conventional forks + radial mount brakes??
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:32 PM
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Although the new VFR is nice, I would love to see the latest RC1000V/RCV1000 in a showroom near us.
For now it appears to still be rumors. Has anyone heard different?




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Originally Posted by Upland111 View Post
Although the new VFR is nice, I would love to see the latest RC1000V/RCV1000 in a showroom near us.
For now it appears to still be rumors. Has anyone heard different?




Most likely a rumor as it's just a customer race bike costing more a LOT. And I think you have to be pre approved by honda to buy one and it's only sold to race teams so even a wealthy motrcycle lover can't buy one unless he also owns a team. But that's a great rendering and would love to see it on the streets. I have heard a thing or two about honda bringing back sport vtwins as in the superhawk or the RC51. Would love to get my hands on a 2015 superhawk but I think it's all about demand. With so much going on in the big twin class I think it's a matter of when not if honda will do another sport twin.
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"With so much going on in the big twin class I think it's a matter of when not if honda will do another sport twin."




Scobey I hope your right. I'm sure you have seen pictures of the Concept VTR SP3, (Google Images). I don't need to repeat what's already been voiced on this forum many times, that a new fresh VTR would make a nice companion to the sweetheart standing out in the garage.


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Old 02-04-2014, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Upland111 View Post
"With so much going on in the big twin class I think it's a matter of when not if honda will do another sport twin."




Scobey I hope your right. I'm sure you have seen pictures of the Concept VTR SP3, (Google Images). I don't need to repeat what's already been voiced on this forum many times, that a new fresh VTR would make a nice companion to the sweetheart standing out in the garage.


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most of those renderings for an SP3 are horribly ugly but i do think this one looks sweet except the mismatched wheels



and as far as the vtr im sure everyone on here has seen this which is just a mix of a vtr and a cbr through the eyes of one person but something along those lines would be great. although i hope if the did update the superhawk it would be more on the sport side than the touring side.



and wolverine i do apologize for the thread jackk! on the subject of the VFR, why cant Honda do a full sport V4? im sure it would be a hit with the success of the RSV4. but the VFR is a sweeeeeetttt sounding machine
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Originally Posted by jscobey View Post
on the subject of the VFR, why cant Honda do a full sport V4? im sure it would be a hit with the success of the RSV4.
Money talks, bullshit walks...


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Definitely better than the predecessor (lighter, better mass centralisation, better looking), but still too heavy and complex (ditch the V-TEC for starters, give it a bump in displacement, a real USD fork, and a diet then let me know).

as for the RSV4 being a success, I beg to differ.... it may be a good bike and doing well on the track adn in comparo tests, but they don;t seem to be moving out of the showrooms at a great rate of speed.....

as for the "so much going on in the V-twin class".... who other than Ducati is doing anything in the V-twins class (cruisers excepted; they are not real motorcycles)? Moto Morini (which never came to NA) is out of business, Moto Guzzi are building neat but niche market bikes, and Aprilia are building a neat 1200 but don`t seem to be pushing it too hard......

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I've hated all the recent VFR's. The 1200 is so damn ugly I hate to see it in a showroom next to the honda sex machines. err, I mean CBR's

That 800 is a pretty looking bike however. I'm still not a fan of the V4 though. I hate that Aprilia went that route and ditched The RSV1000R, I LOVED the Mille and its on my short list (along with the RC51, a Yamaha RD500 (never available in the states ) a Yamaha YZF750R (no not the R7) and an older Kawasaki ZX7R (the older ones with the dated green/white/purple paint, I've always had a fodness for that paint scheme, the bike under it really doesn't matter lol) )

If Honda put out a New RC51 type bike, I would be all over it, I'd even wait on getting a new truck (I have a hard on for when the 2015 Chevy Colorado Diesel comes out this fall to replace my 04) to pick it up and get rid of the YZF600 Race Bike

All that being said, if the VFR was something other than the V4 engine I probably would look into one at the least, if it was a Vtwin or a cheaper more comfortable inline 4, I'd probably look into it some

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Originally Posted by mikstr View Post
as for the "so much going on in the V-twin class".... who other than Ducati is doing anything in the V-twins class (cruisers excepted; they are not real motorcycles)? Moto Morini (which never came to NA) is out of business, Moto Guzzi are building neat but niche market bikes, and Aprilia are building a neat 1200 but don`t seem to be pushing it too hard......
Im not saying that VTwins are taking over, but im saying they are popular at the moment. EBR is competing in WSBK with their 1200cc VTwin, KTM is having huge success with their big twins like the RC8 and the superduke, Ducati is doing really well with the 1199 and 899 panigale, Bimoto is producing twins, there is still some suzuki vtwins being produced, and some really awesome aprillia v twins being made. IMO Honda would have success with another superhawk or RC type twin.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:51 AM
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Ahh what the hell, I might as well thread jack also.

2014 MV Agusta Dragster 800 Official Pics Out - Motorcycle USA

Big meaty size 200 in the rear, and, 125hp for an 800cc. As Tim the tool man Taylor would say, Arr,Arr,Arr....
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Originally Posted by Jack Flash View Post
Ahh what the hell, I might as well thread jack also.

2014 MV Agusta Dragster 800 Official Pics Out - Motorcycle USA

Big meaty size 200 in the rear, and, 125hp for an 800cc. As Tim the tool man Taylor would say, Arr,Arr,Arr....
Only a partial thread jack, Jack, since it, too, is an 800....... nice try though
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That MV swingarm mounted unnecessary sprung weight was probably a thorn in the engineer's side, but it looks absolutely amazing.

They need another set of footpegs, though. I could fit at least a third person on the back of that, and maybe a fourth if they're small people.
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i know were now completley taking over this thread but has anyone seen this? the CBR1000RR SP edition. which is a real bike available as of this month in very limited numbers. ohlins front and rear, brembos, lots of mods to the engine. pretty sweet





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Nice looking bike compared to the 1200...what I'd like to see from Honda is a VTR based street fighter to compete with the new FZ-09's affordability and fun factor...
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Originally Posted by oahu hawk View Post
...what I'd like to see from Honda is a VTR based street fighter to compete with the new FZ-09's affordability and fun factor...
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I think if Honda did another big street twin it would probably be some kind of Adventure bike like a V-Strom to cash in on the current craze. It would probably have that silly bird-beak fender on it as well.
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I think most recent hondas have been disappointments. Like they half-assed try something with bad suspension and way too heavy.

The vfr1200 was a pig (in looks and weight). Vfrs are like electric motors but too complex. The new bikes look like conterfiet KTMs.(but are at least attractive)

Have you seen the new dumbed down 650? I-4 but weak and uglier than the cbr300.
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IMO there's not any way to get a good brand new Vtwin sport bike without buying an overpriced exotic that looks better than it performs. I get that the I-4 is Japan's signature engine and that the Italians love the Twins, but if money wasn't a factor I'd buy a brand new vtwin honda over a brand new ducati any day. Japanese just make really good bikes and cars for that matter. The only thing that justifies the high price of a ducati is that it's littered with high dollar components like suspension and brakes stock. But I do agree smokinjoe, honda has disappointed me lately being lower in HP, higher in weight, and just all around not keeping up with competitors bikes in most classes. The one thing they have going for them is they are Hondas
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Let me chime in here with another negative for Honda. I know a guy who works in a Honda/Suzuki dealer. He's owned CBR's for as long as he can remember, and would change for a new model every two years.

He had a small problem with his latest model('11) and needed mechanical attention. When his fellow workers showed him the internals of his engine, he noticed how badly the parts were warn, including the failed part. Openly told me his next bike will be a Gixxer, and never a Honda again.

Now, maybe he was just unlucky, but, he sees a lot more repairs then in the passed years. I guess Honda needs to keep up with the trend of cheap, low budge, high profit margins.
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Whew! Just got electrical service back after 12 hours without. That ice storm hit us pretty hard here in south central PA!! Good thing I heat w/ wood, we stayed warm!

On that note... I have a friend that has worked @ a Toyota dealership as a service writer... now he's @ Ford. Swears up and down how bad Fords are. Wasn't real big on Toyota's when he was there.


I was surprised to see an updated radial braked conventional fork. Is it really that much cheaper when you have forks from other models that are useable?
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People always ask me why I dont buy a new bike, but I just can see what could make me feel the way the hawk does.

Nothing looks or sounds like it. Its rip-snorting old school carbureted big bore fury and sounds as bad-*** as it rides.

I used to ride only CBRs, but they just arent as soul-stirring as the hawk.

I am now going through withdrawls after the awful snowstorms that have been pelting us. But once I get back on that pounding v twin, all will be right in the world again.
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Well said Joe, and I agree 100%.
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I've always like the mechanical music a properly piped viffer makes. They have always (in the past) looked good IMO. The current one hasn't grown on me yet. I did get to spend some time on one this past year. The engine is sooo silky smooth, it offered a great riding position and the seat was comfy. Did it "stirr the soul"? Hell no, but I like 'em. Difinitely not enough to own one, but I love to trade up and feel somethin different between my legs once in a while.
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I was surprised to see an updated radial braked conventional fork. Is it really that much cheaper when you have forks from other models that are useable?
you would think every bike by now would be USD forks, even the new CBR650F has conventional forks. IMO and maybe im WAY off base here, but it all could be in an effort to make their sport bikes as in the RR's seem like really high dollar components and high performance. but i could be wrong. it is weird to see radial brakes with the conventional forks tho

and Joe you nailed it. the SHawks got character that most bikes dont. i wont say none because ive ridden bikes with some character. but as far as sport bikes the hawk is in a league of its own. ive said it before but theres nothing like leaving an R1 in your dust in the canyons and seeing the look on their face when they see what your riding. like i always say id rather ride a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow. and i see plenty of squids on R1's and Ducati's crawling their way through the canyons. (not the my hawk is slow cuz its got way more power and speed than i need!)
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If Honda gave it a full 1000cc, ditched the useless vaiable valve timing, put a USD fork and put in on a diet to the tune of 40 lb or so I could be interested. However, I have to say the bar is quite high now with my VTR running as well as it is......
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But really the v-4 is a turbine. Its like an electric motor. Thats great for all day riding, but they make more gear and valve wine than exhaust note.
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...but they make more gear and valve wine than exhaust note.
But, even that sound still makes some of us smile. Reminds me of the gear drive timing set I put on my first vehicle, a SBC powered '81 Chevy S-10.

Smokin', I'm just curious, but since you ride your bike in all weather (that's an understatement!), how has the VTR held up for you? Like corrosion, wear, etc.
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Its held up fine. Rode my cbrs year round too. Little stuff like you have to remove a lot of bolts, clean and anti-seize the threads or the corrosion will make them permanent.

I rinse and wash it a lot too. My "B" bike is a cherry. Never even seen a dirty road let alone rain. Almost afraid to touch it.

When the weather breaks I will remove and clean calipers, check bearings, lube levers and maybe swap the chain & sprockets moments before failure.
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im sure everyone on here has seen this bike more than once but it really is what i would hope for in an update on the SHawk. they may or may not ever even do an update but if they do this would be a great direction to go. all the lines are sharp rather than bubbled. the undertail exhaust is sexy although i dont like how they did the midpipes to get them up there but thats really the only way they could have done it. from the factory honda could fit those into the chassis design. here is the page in which you can see ALOT more pictures. sexy VTR





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