fiitting a new brake master cylinder to improve braking ?
07-10-2005, 11:22 AM
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fiitting a new brake master cylinder to improve braking ?
Do you think fiitting another master cylinder really increase braking power ?
I believe that stock MC is 14mm ... yes ?
Fiitting a axial 16mm or above MC will increase the effort on the lever ?
And thus, will not help to increase braking power ?
I've SS lines, EBC hh pads, stock calipers/rotors/mc.
What is more efficient ? MC, rotors, pads, calipers ?
I believe that stock MC is 14mm ... yes ?
Fiitting a axial 16mm or above MC will increase the effort on the lever ?
And thus, will not help to increase braking power ?
I've SS lines, EBC hh pads, stock calipers/rotors/mc.
What is more efficient ? MC, rotors, pads, calipers ?
07-11-2005, 11:45 AM
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Re: fiitting a new brake master cylinder to improve braking
I just ordered a Honda CBR954 MC and HH pad's so I will be able to report after I get back from Vac. (I riding my VFR east for two weeks). I have heard that this set up on a Super Hawk works very well, we will see. JIM
07-11-2005, 12:04 PM
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OK, here's a basic rundown:
Larger MC: Flows more fluid but requires harder push. Reduces lever travel probably reducing precision.
SS Lines: Increases feel and precision, particularly when replacing older lines. Doesn't increase power.
Softer Pads: Increases braking friction and reduces stopping distance. Adds heat due to more effective braking. May increase fade. Shorter pad life.
Race Pads: Work at higher heat but require higher heat to work well. Reduces fade at racing temps. Short pad life when used properly. Not usually suitable for street use. Hard on rotors.
Higher spec calipers: Improves braking when hot. Reduces fade. Larger pistions require matched larger M/C
Wave roters: Said to cool better for better stopping. More wear on pads. Better pad cleaning. Lighter.
Bigger rotors: More braking leverage for cooler operation, less fade, and better control. Requires replacement/relocation of calipers as needed.
Bleeding/Fluid Change: reduces sponginess, increases brake feel and precision. If lines have air bubbles or wet fluid, it will reduce braking force.
Larger MC: Flows more fluid but requires harder push. Reduces lever travel probably reducing precision.
SS Lines: Increases feel and precision, particularly when replacing older lines. Doesn't increase power.
Softer Pads: Increases braking friction and reduces stopping distance. Adds heat due to more effective braking. May increase fade. Shorter pad life.
Race Pads: Work at higher heat but require higher heat to work well. Reduces fade at racing temps. Short pad life when used properly. Not usually suitable for street use. Hard on rotors.
Higher spec calipers: Improves braking when hot. Reduces fade. Larger pistions require matched larger M/C
Wave roters: Said to cool better for better stopping. More wear on pads. Better pad cleaning. Lighter.
Bigger rotors: More braking leverage for cooler operation, less fade, and better control. Requires replacement/relocation of calipers as needed.
Bleeding/Fluid Change: reduces sponginess, increases brake feel and precision. If lines have air bubbles or wet fluid, it will reduce braking force.
07-12-2005, 12:39 AM
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Re: fiitting a new brake master cylinder to improve braking
Do you mean locking front wheel at high speeds on dry surface ????
EBC HH Pads aren't glassed, i've checked and used sand paper to be sure.
calipers have been cleaned up, pistons are working well without effort.
No air in the lines (the lever is always firm), no sponginess (fluid is almost new)
I've tested Race pads (AP racing), more attack than stock but no power when cool so i switch to EBC HH pads.
Looks like i'd need bigger rotors...
I used to ride a Aprilia RSV 1000 with 320 mm brembo disks/ brembo 4 pistons calipers, Brembo M3 pads, and radial beringer MC : it works great on the track (and the road). Definetely more power without effort ....
EBC HH Pads aren't glassed, i've checked and used sand paper to be sure.
calipers have been cleaned up, pistons are working well without effort.
No air in the lines (the lever is always firm), no sponginess (fluid is almost new)
I've tested Race pads (AP racing), more attack than stock but no power when cool so i switch to EBC HH pads.
Looks like i'd need bigger rotors...
I used to ride a Aprilia RSV 1000 with 320 mm brembo disks/ brembo 4 pistons calipers, Brembo M3 pads, and radial beringer MC : it works great on the track (and the road). Definetely more power without effort ....
07-12-2005, 10:44 AM
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Re: fiitting a new brake master cylinder to improve braking
Do you mean locking front wheel at high speeds on dry surface ????
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