I was wondering about that myself - I have the ignition under the seat where the helmet lock would be on a gixxer. The trouble is I can't lock the bars at all! So I have a disc brake lock, but sometimes I wish I had something quick when I'm going in to grab something like forgotten gloves or something.
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Tigerblood

 

could you elaborat on "the stops"? are these on the VTR ignition/steering lock set up or is this on the 929 triples? so i straight relocate my VTR ignition and as long as i take the "stops" off, i should be able to lock the bike?

secondly, you mentioned lossing an inch or half inch on the fork length depending on the clip on set up you used. my question is, how does this affect steering and performance? rake and trail? i'm guessing getting as close to stock dimensions is best, but with the heli bars, the best scenario will loose maybe half inch (dipping the bike down ever so slightly) according to your calculations. my understanding is this makes steering "quicker"? i know the supsension benefits are huge, but i'm tryin to see what the cons are if any . . . will steering be "twitchier"? will the bike be more prone to speed wobbles? is a steering dampener even more required with this set up?

lastly, how much will the ride ergonomics change? i'm guessing the bike will dip lower which'll cause us to lean a little more forward. . . but do the heli bars compensate for this?
can't wait to hear your feedback on your heli bars and see some pics!!

 

Sorry I went away for a couple of days I'll get back to you on your quest. as I have a sh##load of homework right now. I'll try to answer you tonight.

 

no worries dude, just talking with my mechanic and relaying all the info i've learned so far. i might be on to a 50mm heli bar from a guy who replaced his back to stock. . . i hope! i'm down for whatever minimizes fork length loss. and i found an entire 929 front end (minus fender) for $850 CAN (with steel braided lines), i hope it's straight!!

 

Resurfacing this again....

Looking at an 02 front assy from 954....

what else will I need.... break it down 'Barney style' if you can... please... Im very mechanically inclined and do ALL my own work... but the piece/parts issue has me a bit concerned...

head bearings....

clip ons....

brake calipers...

will my wheel work? or do I need another....

and so on...

thanks a bunch....

 

Yes you would need a new wheel there's no way around that. I would really suggest that you go with an RC51 front end though there's just less to mess with. The forks are the same length as the stock forks so you can mount the clipons on top like the originals.

This is what you'll need.
1. Forks
2. triples
3. wheel
4. rotors
5. clipons
6. while your at it you might as well get the calipers
7. If you choose to go with 929/954 you'll need helibars or mount clipons on top and loose alot of length.
8. I would use tapered race head bearings for whatever triples you get. I put on 954 bearings and the races fit perfectly.
9. Sorry forgot you need a fender as well.
As I said before I would go with a complete RC51 front end.

 

thanks for the info...

Here is what Im looking at...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

So I still need a wheel, bearings,calipers, bars, axle, rotors...

I can pick this up and save on shipping...

What would you do?

I want to contact him and see what other parts he has.... should I.... or let it slide....

thanks

is it worth it?

 

It depends on what you can get it for. If he's local and you can look at them so you can see this "small dent" and make sure they're ok and save on shipping you'll have a little more $ to play with. If you go this route, I suggest helibars mounted under the triple. I'll try to get some pics up today,(sometime in between mowing an acre and a half and fixing the wifes Durango) so you can see hoe it looks and what you have to do to make it work.

One other plus is it still has the ignition and key, you could sell those and still use your VTR stuff.

 

THANKS... This auction is ending soon... so not to rush you... BUT HURRY!!!

 

Holy smokes your just like my wife! She thinks 12 hrs is soon too easy now lets take a deep breath. Just kidding I understand, (as he says under his breath, "come on motherf#*%er). Yes!! After weeks of waiting the lazy bastard got pics up. (but I'm still waiting on 900rr wheel #5.)

Any thing else dear?

 

ABOUT TIME!!!! Glad I wasnt holding my breath... take your time, what dont ya... LMAO!!!

Thanks alot... I appreciate the 'hi-pri' on the honey-do list...

That looks great... but you have made me seond guess this... maybe I should hold off and wait for the RC51 components to rise from the dust....

I dunno.. sigh....

 

If you can get it cheap enough I'd say it's worth it you just have to get helibars. I only paid about $90 for the helibars on ebay but you never know what they'll go for.

 

man.. thats alot for bars... I'l think about it.... thanks again....

 

[/quote]vtromey wrote

could you elaborat on "the stops"? are these on the VTR ignition/steering lock set up or is this on the 929 triples? so i straight relocate my VTR ignition and as long as i take the "stops" off, i should be able to lock the bike?

Yes it should but I haven't done it yet, If they really want to take your bike a steering lock ussually won't stop them.

secondly, you mentioned lossing an inch or half inch on the fork length depending on the clip on set up you used. my question is, how does this affect steering and performance? rake and trail? i'm guessing getting as close to stock dimensions is best, but with the heli bars, the best scenario will loose maybe half inch (dipping the bike down ever so slightly) according to your calculations. my understanding is this makes steering "quicker"? i know the supsension benefits are huge, but i'm tryin to see what the cons are if any . . . will steering be "twitchier"? will the bike be more prone to speed wobbles? is a steering dampener even more required with this set up?

Yes it is less stable than stock but IMHO they went way too conservitive to begin with. A steering stabilizer would help but I really haven't noticed a big need for it. With the helibars I only lost less than a half of an inch, so that would be like pushing the stock forks up less than half an inch in the stock triples.


lastly, how much will the ride ergonomics change? i'm guessing the bike will dip lower which'll cause us to lean a little more forward. . . but do the heli bars compensate for this?
can't wait to hear your feedback on your heli bars and see some pics!![/quote]

It's just a hair lower, but the Helibars don't angle down as much so it's just about the same. The bars are wider so you get a little more leverage then before and they did a surprisingly good job of getting rid of alot of the bar buzz.

Got any thing else?

 

doh! i lost my posts just after the site was updated! that's cool, i'll briefly go over what i found out. BTW, thanks SH22 for the responses! i've learned tonnes already!

so I called heli bar, they make 50 mm bars for 954, 929, GSXR 750/1000, R1, and TL 1000 all mount under the tripples (ducati 800/1000 SS also 50 mm but over the triples) . . . so, looked at the different lengths or rises for each bar, but the measurements they had were relative to stock set ups. got to thinking that some bars might have higher rises than others. they didn't have other pics of the bars off the bikes and they don't have exact dimensions. the 954 heli bar sounds like it's a tad taller than the 929 helibar (my understanding is that the forks are almost identical, maybe they changed/raised the stock bar for better ride ergos or maybe to clear the newer fairing, i don't know) . . . so what am i getting at, well, by looking at the pics on the helibar website, it definitely looks like the helibar for the TL1000 will have the best clearance, it appears that it has the tallest rise. the R1's are straight out, the gixer and hondas rise just a tad. see for yourself . . .

here's the gixer helibar (which i can have for 100 CAN, so i'm really pushing/hoping this'll work, but they're not that tall):

http://www.helibars.com/pics/suzuki/gsxr1000-750.html

here's the TL1000 helibar:

http://www.helibars.com/pics/suzuki/tl1000s-a.html

and
http://www.helibars.com/pics/suzuki/tl1000s.html (tough to see the rise of the bar on this pic)

if you ask me, these are definitely taller than the gixers and for sure taller than the 929/954s (which they don't have pics of off the bike)

ssssso, they're 50 mm, they should fit right?!! better than the 929's?!! more clearance?!! or will the geometry be all messed up cause it's for a different bike? i think it'll work. this could be an alternative to the 929 heli bar.

BTW, i took the gixer helibar and held it right up against a 954's bars, and the stock954 bars are still taller. (this bike was totalled, but the guys said i can have the 954 bars if they work and put those on my 929 front end!) question is, is the stock 954 bar taller than the 929 helibar?

i don't think there's much difference b/w the 929 and gixer heli bars. so, SH22, with your 929 set up (looks good btw) the gixxer helibar should work just about thesame, barely making it . . .

 

one more thing, here's another possiblity for bars on any 50 mm fork set up. they're two brothers V3 adjustable bars. . . . expensive though . . .

http://www.twobros.com/Perf_Products...Handlebars.htm

 

Looks good but damn that's alot of money. My buddy did find some of these on ebay once though.

 

Hey W-O-T did you get the front end or decide to wait?

 

I held off... I think Im gonna wait on the right RC51 junk to come around..... too much mix-matchin to go thru with the 929/954

thanks for the input....

 

No prob. I think that's the right thing to do, it's just easier that way. That is if you don't get the Yamahawk.