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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
Where is the fun in that? Honestly, anyone with a checking account can buy a fast bike, but it takes talent and hard work to build one yourself. My 1098 has 170 rear wheel hp but if I built my VTR up to have 130 I think I would enjoy it more. At least there would be a greater sense of satisfaction about the whole thing.
Not to be a dick but if the 1098 is stock engine-wise, it should have 170 hp at the crank, not the back wheel (which amounts to mid to high 140s at the rear wheel, based on dyno reports I have seen, definitely nothing to sneeze at).
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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What is the typical rear wheel hp output on a superhawk?

Mine has a jet kit, K&N filter and Leo Vinci slip ons. Kinda curious on what my Hp numbers are around.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Vega (streetfighter)
What is the typical rear wheel hp output on a superhawk?

Mine has a jet kit, K&N filter and Leo Vinci slip ons. Kinda curious on what my Hp numbers are around.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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right on.... Thanks for the reply.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tapatio
After GP Motorcycles replaced my ECU, airbox, and all four cams with '08 components (stalling issue, warranty work), my '07 1098 lifts under WOT in 3rd gear. 170 RWHP out of the 1098 is impressive, how did you accomplish that?
Originally Posted by mikstr
Not to be a dick but if the 1098 is stock engine-wise, it should have 170 hp at the crank, not the back wheel (which amounts to mid to high 140s at the rear wheel, based on dyno reports I have seen, definitely nothing to sneeze at).

Dyno charts show about 160 RWHP for a stsock 1098. Termignoni claims +10hp with the 70mm system I have which includes an air filter and race ECU. This is supported because the guys with this setup have dyno'd at anywhere from 167-172 RWHP. I've not dyno'd mine, so this is all that I can go on.
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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I rode a stock one two summers ago and was mighty impressed, I can only imagine what an extra 10 or hp must do. Poor Jamie, having to walk around with a silly grin on his face all day long, lol
Old Sep 17, 2009 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RCVTR
I think 120 HP, with a set of light wheels and good suspension is th perfect VTR.
especially if it has a penske shock and rc51 front end!
it is about perfect. it doesn't stop the urge to look at other bikes though
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mikstr
I rode a stock one two summers ago and was mighty impressed, I can only imagine what an extra 10 or hp must do. Poor Jamie, having to walk around with a silly grin on his face all day long, lol

Given the choice I've picked the VTR the past two days. Take that for whatever it's worth. If the VTR had 130hp I might not have bought the 1098 in the first place.

I probably need to sell the VTR but I'm having trouble parting with it.
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LineArrayNut
a better question is can you best yourself on the street on a 1098 vs. well sorted 'hawk?
Hell yeah :]

Don't take my word for it though, try one out (rent/demo).
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by cliby
especially if it has a penske shock and rc51 front end!
it is about perfect. it doesn't stop the urge to look at other bikes though
+1 there are some nice bikes out there on the mkt right now for not a lot of bones including the 1098, but a nicely sorted SH is still my favorite...I passed a 1098 going down the interstate the other day and it's seemed small to me like a 600, so I'll stick with my big fat nicely sorted SH
Old Sep 18, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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At one time I thought about getting more power than what I got with the Yoshimura full system exhaust and stage 1 cams (~110 rwhp).

Costly to get an additional 15 rwhp with HC pistons, over size valves and porting. And it still wouldn't hang with the 1000cc IL4 bikes.

So for a fast bike I got a 'Busa (~160 rwhp). Even faster is my 2nd generation '08 'Busa (183 rwhp with the R77 full system exhaust).

The VTR will always be a blast to ride. It's the sound, feel, tractable power delivery and compact size that makes it so much fun to ride.

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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 12:43 PM
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im pretty happy with my one
Old Sep 20, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
Dyno charts show about 160 RWHP for a stsock 1098. Termignoni claims +10hp with the 70mm system I have which includes an air filter and race ECU. This is supported because the guys with this setup have dyno'd at anywhere from 167-172 RWHP. I've not dyno'd mine, so this is all that I can go on.
Not breaking your chops or anything since you've probably forgotten more about tuning bikes than I know, but Cycle World just dynoed a 1098R at 169. It had the Termi's on it and that's with 1200cc... The base 1098 did 143... Are they wrong?
Old Sep 20, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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Anyways it doesn't really matter. I had a '00 ZX12r with some light mods that put down @170-175 to the wheel. Previous owner had it on a radar gun at 195 mph. He had some pretty sick bikes, but in the end it was the superhawk that stayed in the garage and the 12 was sold.

I was driving in my car (not for long though) next to a new 1098 the other day and was drooling over the looks and the sound. What an amazing machine...
Old Sep 21, 2009 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by captainchaos
Not breaking your chops or anything since you've probably forgotten more about tuning bikes than I know, but Cycle World just dynoed a 1098R at 169. It had the Termi's on it and that's with 1200cc... The base 1098 did 143... Are they wrong?

I'm not sure! I've just been going by what others in the "community" are claiming their dyno results are. I've ridden 140rwhp bikes and this thing feels faster - knowing darn well that's a very poor way of evaluating power output.
Old Sep 23, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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Well guys enjoyed reading all the input and went and bought an 05 gsxr 750 for the extra speed.But do not fret,the hawk stays.Even though I like the 750,it just doesn't compare to the feel of the Hawk.
Old Sep 23, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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how much faster is the gixxer?
Old Sep 23, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Probably not all that much faster. I've hit 142 actual, Mike has hit 159 actual(160 and 180 indicated respectively).
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 06:27 AM
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yeah, I could get a lot better 60 ft from my massaged (full Muzzy race system, K&N, jetted, ign. adv., various other lightening efforts and fuel adjuncts) '90 ZX-7, and thus a bit faster 1/4 mile ET's - but the mph was roughly equivalent as was top speed. That was a heavy bike though and the 15 years of engine progress prolly helps a bit...
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 10:13 AM
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My RC51 has HC pistons and mild port work, Power Commander, some intake tract mods and a full Moriwaki exhaust system. It probabably makes 130-135 at the rear wheel.

It has 16.5 Marchesini mag wheels, tuned Ohlins shock and a tuned RC51 front end.

Before the velocity stack wedged in the throttle body and put me on the ground, I was simply amazed. It was the first ride on it. As I was riding, I was thinking "this thing is perfect." It has plenty more than enough power and the chassis is incredible.

I will become a much better rider with it. It has capabilities far beyond what I can expect to achieve.

NO Rick. It's not for sale!
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RCVTR
My RC51 has HC pistons and mild port work, Power Commander, some intake tract mods and a full Moriwaki exhaust system. It probabably makes 130-135 at the rear wheel.

It has 16.5 Marchesini mag wheels, tuned Ohlins shock and a tuned RC51 front end.

Before the velocity stack wedged in the throttle body and put me on the ground, I was simply amazed. It was the first ride on it. As I was riding, I was thinking "this thing is perfect." It has plenty more than enough power and the chassis is incredible.

I will become a much better rider with it. It has capabilities far beyond what I can expect to achieve.

NO Rick. It's not for sale!
No prob, I'll wait

Enjoy her for a few years then we'll talk...I've been lookin for an excuss to fly to Denver for the Triple By Pass anyway
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by captainchaos
Not breaking your chops or anything since you've probably forgotten more about tuning bikes than I know, but Cycle World just dynoed a 1098R at 169. It had the Termi's on it and that's with 1200cc... The base 1098 did 143... Are they wrong?
Nope. They are correct. A 1098 with Half Termi's + ECU will not put out 170 RWHP. It'll be more between 145-150 RWHP from what I've read.
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by FL02SupaHawk996
+1 there are some nice bikes out there on the mkt right now for not a lot of bones including the 1098, but a nicely sorted SH is still my favorite...I passed a 1098 going down the interstate the other day and it's seemed small to me like a 600, so I'll stick with my big fat nicely sorted SH
The 1098 is small, nimble, and hot. Kind of like a trophy girlfriend / kinkoid. The Superhawk is more like a wife - reliable and fun to take out every now and then. When I want to have a great time and get away from it all, I go with the 1098.
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RCVTR
My RC51 has .... a .... RC51 front end.

No way!
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by captainchaos
Anyways it doesn't really matter. I had a '00 ZX12r with some light mods that put down @170-175 to the wheel. Previous owner had it on a radar gun at 195 mph. He had some pretty sick bikes, but in the end it was the superhawk that stayed in the garage and the 12 was sold.

I was driving in my car (not for long though) next to a new 1098 the other day and was drooling over the looks and the sound. What an amazing machine...
i had a 00 zx12r and i loved it and i think it was faster than the zx14 i drive now
Old Sep 24, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JamieDaugherty
No way!
Yup. I read somewhere that it was the hot setup. It was on the bike when I bought it.
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