FL02SupaHawk996

Nice bling factor for $600 bones

vtrracer69

Ok. Here I show you the pics again.

Tweety

Well I'm prettys sure Hondas naming schemes's is made to be confusing on purpose...

They all have a "factory designation", a "name" or family name, a "nickname" and then there are certain rules to how the parts are configured also...

A VTR has the following info... Factory designation: SC36, Name: VTR-1000F, nickname: Superhawk in the US Firestorm in Europe...

But to put it simply... Yes... a SC50 is a CBR 954RR... The 954 comes from the displacement...

The Fireblade has been designated SC28,33,44,50, and the current CBR 1000RR is SC57...

Higgens

Ich Versuchs mal

Air Cleaner Spezial
LIFTER, TENSIONER Spezial Higgens
Air Scoops Spezial Water Temp -18°C
Front WHEEL CBR954
Brake Disk RC51 SP1
CALIPER SUB-ASSY RC51 SP2
FRONT FORK RC51
SPRING, FR. FORK Öhlins
Front Top / Up Bridge RC51
GENERATOR light -600g
LENS, TAILLIGHT CBR1000RR
SPEEDOMETER CBR1000RR
Speedokonverter for MPH and 1/min
SHOCK ABSORBER Wilbers
Pedal Gilles Toling
Tire Watch
Leovince Carbon

Tweety

OK higgins... Now you have done it... Start talking... How did ya connect up that instrument cluster!!!

Did it work straight of with the VTR's V-twin to the tacho? plug and pray? The shiftlight... is it working?
The gear indicator obviously isn't stock... Acumen?
You listed a Mph-Kmh converter, Speedohealer?

What about the RLOD ie fuel Warning?

I have more... just catching my breath...

SlowHAWK

Yeah Higgins..... gotta know about that cluster.... looks like the perfect solution to clear the clip-on clearence issue when swaping out the front end with a 929/954/RC unit...

J.

supermarto

I am glad Europe has no good forum for the VTR and all you guys are posting these SICK bikes here...

Tweety

I was thinking the exact same thing... and it has a clock! Goddamitt Honda... it took you 7 years to figure that out?

Tweety

Hah... There are several... But there are also several languages in Europe...

My German is Ok... I get about 75%... mostly technical words that stump me...

But other languages is kinda hard... I can hold a normal conversation in 7 languages, but talking about bikes with a guy from Italy was a bit out of my league... altough he was a hardcore Duccattista, so it didn't matter that much... His judgement on my VTR was that the color was the right one, all else was wrong...

superbling

Tweety,

I'm running a CBR1000RR guage on my 96 VFR:

Most of the connections are pretty straightforward. You'll need the wiring schematics for both bikes (of course) as well as the cbr headlight harness (pretty cheap even new) to plug into the back of the unit.

The speedo and water temp are the biggest obstacles. I got around the h20 sensor with one I had from a koso guage but hopefully the cbr sensor will screw right into the vtr hole. The speedo is giving me fits. I haven't tried a speedohealer brand but two other boxes I've wired in have given mixed results. Still working on that but a sigma bc800 keeps me accurate for the moment.

As for the RLOD, the cbr unit has one too (no fuel level gauge). The VFR sensor which appears to be identical to the VTR unit trips the cbr ROLD with approx. 9/10ths of a gallon left.

What I want to know is what the heck that blue inset number zero is for. I thought it was a gear indicator but what would zero be? Neutral? LOL

Tweety

The blue number definetly is a gear indicator, and since the green light for neutral is on, 0 gears seems right...

RLOD - check
Temp - check
Needs wiring loom - bugger, but check...
Tacho, pending...
Speedo, pending, might need speedohealer?

Higgens?! The suspense is murder...

highlander

definitly right - I have the same in the standard-instrumentals

Higgens

kann mir das mal jemand Übersetzen bitte

Tweety

Oh... rrriight... I'll get to work on that...

Tweety

Ok... it partly babelfish and partly me... but here goes...

Funktionierte es gerade mit vom Tacho, da des VTRs ein Vdoppel ist? Stecker und Spiel? Das shiftlight... ist es arbeitend?

Die Zahnradanzeige ist es ein Acumen?

Sie verzeichneten einen MPH-Kmh Konverter, Speedohealer?
Alle mögliche anderen Änderungen mußten, damit der Speedo arbeitet?

Was über die Benzin Warnung? (Bling geholfen mir mit diesem... VFR funktionierte... )

Tweety

Auch erhielten Sie die Temperatur Lehre, um zu arbeiten? entsprechend dem Bling sollte sie mit der korrekten Absendermaßeinheit arbeiten...

Tweety

If I'm molesting your language to badly I appologize... I can do basic conversation but my syntax is terrible and I have to use babelfish for most technical terms...

Higgens

Der Tacho von der CBR900/954 Passt soweit bis auf das Geschwindigkeitssignal, das muss angepasst werden da die CBR eine andere Impulszahl Liefert als die VTR.
Das Drehzahlsignal muss auch Umgewandelt werden da der Drehzalmesser mit dem Signal von der VTR nicht Arbeiten kann, da der VTR Drehzahlmesser Analog ist und der CBR Digital muss das Signal von Analog auf Digital gewandelt werden und in der Impulszahl angepasst werden.

Für die Wasser Temperaturanzeige nimmt man den Sensor von der SP1/2

Die Cockpits passen nicht Plag and Play aufeinander von den Anschlüssen her, es muß der Stecker Komplett neu Aufgelegt werden.

Die Ganganzeige ist von Acumen, die Zerlege ich in die Einzelteile und verbaue sie dann in die Cockpits, das ist auch eine Spezialität von mir.

Was die Technik und das Umbauen angeht Reitz mich immer das Machbare und die Perfektion, ob es geht oder nicht.
In dem Bereich bin ich schon ein Wenig Verrückt

Higgens

Mit dem Sensor von der RC51 SP1/2 geht das ohne Problme

Was über die Benzin Warnung, das habe ich noch nicht getestet, nur mal Kuz, mit dem Sensor von den Baujahren 97-00 ghet es so weit, mit den Sensoren 01 bis 06 nicht da dieser Anderst Aufgebaut ist

@ Tweety
Thank you

Higgens

Kein Thema, ich benutze Googel zur Überstzung, meine Übersetzng ist auch Furchtbar

Ich wollte Eigenlich einen Englich Kurs machen um mich wieder Fitt zu machen, bin aber im Moment dabei einen Spanisch Kurs zu machen da ich in nächster Zeit 3 bis 4 mal im Jahr in Spanien sein werde auf der Renne und Honda Modelle vor zu stellen auf der Renne

Tweety

Und wie taten Sie das?

Wieder wie taten Sie das?



Ich bin derselbe in diesem Respekt

Tweety

Ich schätze, daß Sie einen Stromkreis benutzen, um die Signale zu übersetzen. Ich bin ein Elektronikingenieur, damit vermutlich unabhängig davon die Sprache arbeiten würde

Higgens

morning


Der Tacho wird mit dem Speedohealer Angepasst, das 5V TTL Signal vom Impulsgeber von der Getribe Ausgangswelle

Drehzahlmesser mit einem Wander und Konverter, der Wandler Wandelt das Signal um vom Analogsignal in das Digitalsignal und Läst sich in der Impulszahl Einstellen. Hier sollte man das Signal Direkt vom Zündrotor nehmen nicht von der ECM.

Tweety

Ihr hohes frühes. Ich mag in schlafen...
O.K., benötige ich ein speedohealer. Aber was ist mehr erforderlich?
Ist das etwas Sie mich mit versehen könnte?

highlander

you can get all the Parts you need (including speedohealer) from Higgens

Tweety

Would you mind translating? My German is terrible... I think I have proven that... (Hey, it was.... *thinking hard* 11 years since I had my last lesson... )

I'm hoping it's all done as outside parts connected to the dash as I have a dash on they way... (Ebay) I'm also interested in knowing what the stuff is... I respect "trade secrets" if that's the case, but as said I'm an electronics engineer... I have already rebuilt most of my bikes electronics to suit my own purposes... So I'm curious...

What would the cost be?

saxman

My German......well....doesn't exist (even tho I have grandparents named Daubenmeyer and married a Frymyer). I just stumbled on this thread. I have one question for Higgins. The first pic you have (CBF600 dash), is that something that can be fitted on the VTR? Where can you get it...how much...if not, like I said, I have NO CLUE what you guys are saying...sorry. Picture just peaked my interest. I did see one that bolts right up. Where can these be found?
Thanks for any help for the clueless!

highlander

i think it's a job for kaiju

Reinske

Hey, I'm not Higgens, but I can tell you at least some things. They are just talking about the details how to wire a CBR1000RR SC57 Dash to the Superhawk. What parts you need, how to correct the tacho signals with the speedohealer ( if you change the gearings ) and the oil/water temperature stuff... I can' tell you, if the CBF600 Dash fits into the superhawk, but it won't be too easy, I guess... But maybe you can ask a Honda-Dealer about that. And the Dash could be from ebay... You will need the tachogearing from your transmission, if it's not a digital dash...

So you better wait for Higgens to get some more specific answers...

Tweety

The main problem with ANY dash you get from a 4-cyl engine is that the rev counter is going to show 1/2 the actual revs... And that needs to be adapted somehow... Which is basicly what we are trying to work out...

And yes you may find a dash that physicly "bolts right up", but you still need to fix the electronics...