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Old 12-13-2007, 08:43 AM
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My next project

Well, I don't have it yet. Man I've been patient for a long time. 2 years in September since I tossed mine in the ditch.

I finally got the remodel paid for and getting some money in the bank, so I decided it was time for "the talk". So I said, "I'm going to get a bike." It didn't go well at first, I must say. It was the first time in a long time that a discussion of motorcycles was brought into the present. Like I said, it didn't go well a first. Then it got worse. I told her I wasn't asking for permission, just letting her know my intentions and asking her to stand back and let me do it. Hoo boy. I figured I might as well stir the S#^! up and then see where it ends up when the dust clears. And you know what? It came out good.

I had to compromise and wait another year (she was asking for 3 and I said "no f$%in way"). When I offered a year, and we worked it out, everything smoothed out, we continued on our hike, went to the hot springs and out to dinner, and I'm gonna have a bike in my garage! I don't think it will even get knocked over when I'm not around, although I may safety wire it to the ceiling in my garage.

So I just bought a new set of Marchesini forged mags for my new track bike project. My buddy Dean wasn't quite ready to part with his bike, but I'm buying his leathers, helmet and gloves. He figures he'll be ready to sell next year, so that's perfect. His bike is a really good starting point. It has a full Moriwaki exhaust, Moriwaki suspension link, Ohlins shock and reworked forks. I'm going to put '00-'01 forks on it. And I'll have to buy some race glass. I think I'll collect engine bits over the summer.

I don't need more HP, but I need to build something. I'm just going to put Carillo rods in and lighen the crank and blueprint everything. JE pistons tend to fit loose, so I'm going to get a set of Bob's special recipe pistons made and have them coated.

That's at least half the fun for me. Then I'll have a bike for a few track days a year and it will be something really special (to me at least). It sounds like a lot of money, but it's way cheaper than any car project, fits in my garage, and I feel like Marylin, with my skirt all blown up. I'll keep you all posted on progress.
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Old 12-13-2007, 09:59 AM
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You never really say exactly what bike it will be. Hmmm, lot's of mori' thrown around. Sounds like it's an RVT and not a VTR to me.
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That is what, we in the business, call a "Teaser"
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:36 AM
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It's an RCVTR.
No. It's a VTR1000RR
It's a wannabe superbike.
It's a Super Hawk with a real chassis and mo' mota.

Doug, it looks like you're out of motorcycles! You just got that VFR finished! I never got to hear that V4 with those pipes on it.
Man I wish Honda would build another full-on V4 sportbike.

I heard a rumor that they have 2 versions of an RC61 superbike. One a V4-1000 and the other a V2-1200 built and in testing. I think it depends on how the Superbike rules go which one they put in to production.

Ok, I need to get to work. But I can't think about anything else!
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Originally Posted by RCVTR
It's an RCVTR.
Doug, it looks like you're out of motorcycles! You just got that VFR finished! I never got to hear that V4 with those pipes on it.
Yup, it sounds purty goooooood. I do have a video clip but it's somewhat poor sounding as the bike was in a pre-tune up/jet kit and cold engine state. I had just installed the pipes for the first time:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=18JIXXJYpWM


Here's a recent pic (added SS lines and better flush mounts since):

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I'm pondering the possibilities with an RC next. I hope you start a thread once you get to the laying-of-hands part of the project; makes for a great winter thread for the weather-challenged folks.
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:08 PM
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Great looking pictures, Bling and I would say "good to have you back" Rand but I knew you never left.
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Since this is a Super Hawk site.
I had a pretty nice one...
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Here's a couple of my RC whenI was building an engine for Dean a couple years ago.

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How could you work on such a dirty pig sty of an engine? Oh the inhumanity!
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:41 AM
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Dirt is BAD for engines!





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Old 12-14-2007, 08:06 AM
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Welcome home Rand but I thought you were moving on to other bikes? Whoops nevermind, have fun with her.
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I thought about other bikes, but the time wasn't right.

It wasn't until I started taking the V-Twin idea seriously that the fire really got going again.

Mike, I was starting to wonder if you were ok. I hadn't seen any sign of you in a while.

Cheers. Merry Christmas everyone!

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fun to see you are back at it. I'm sure it will be another amazing performer
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It may be the light, but the cylinders look awfully shiny, almost reflective. What's up with that? Just a photo curious forum cruiser.
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:33 AM
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Welcome back Keep us posted on your progress....
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I heard a rumor that they have 2 versions of an RC61 superbike. One a V4-1000 and the other a V2-1200 built and in testing.
Very reliable sources said to me that a new Honda V2, probably 1200, have been tested at Nardo' High Speed Ring few months ago.
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Originally Posted by RCVTR
I thought about other bikes, but the time wasn't right.

It wasn't until I started taking the V-Twin idea seriously that the fire really got going again.

Mike, I was starting to wonder if you were ok. I hadn't seen any sign of you in a while.

Cheers. Merry Christmas everyone!

RC
Yeah just been busy trying to get ourselves out of debt and jonesin' for the track!
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It may be the light, but the cylinders look awfully shiny, almost reflective. What's up with that? Just a photo curious forum cruiser.
Bores were deglazed with 800 grit sandpaper and WD40. It puts a light cosshatch in, with enough sharpness to seat the rings. The Honda rings are very light and thin, so they don't exert much force on the cylinder walls by themselves. You have to ride it hard to get some gas pressure behind the rings. But when you do, it seals up really well and lasts a long time.

It's important to clean the cylinders very well. After cleaning with solvent, I wash the block with soap and water. I then wipe the bores dry with a clean shop paper towel, then immediately wipe it down with WD40. Oil does not displace water. Instead it seals water on the surface. The cylinders will still rust when coated with oil. I keep using a clean towel and WD40 until there is no sign of dirt on the whilte towel. Prior to assembly, I use a clean towel and clean paint thinner to get the WD40 out. I then wipe the cylinders with very thin coat of oil (almost none). I oil the ring lands on the pistons and put some oil on the piston skirts.

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Talk about bling! These things are beautiful.

I must be crazy. But I wanted to pay for them out of '07 funds.

Happy Christmas to me.
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Originally Posted by RCVTR


Talk about bling! These things are beautiful.

I must be crazy. But I wanted to pay for them out of '07 funds.

Happy Christmas to me.
I need some of those too.... now just where did I put my '07 funds???
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Maybe if I stick some broom handles through the axle holes, I can figure out how to ride them.

Lots of time in powerplants, refineries, airports and hotel rooms involved.
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:32 PM
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Way to let your nut's out man We don't ask we tell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
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Those wheels R Sweetttttttttt

How much weight savings from stock?
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Dan Kyle did a weight comparison on RC51.org.
He has the Marchesini front forged mag at 7.0 lbs vs.10.5 for the stock front without rotors.
The Marchesini rear is listed at 13.0 lbs, vs. 19.0 for the rear, with rotors and cush drives.

He doesn't do an inertia comparison, but that's where the biggest improvement is. The difference in acceleration, braking, turn-in etc. will be much greater than the simple weight difference.
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Wheel MOI comparison

I found the articla that Sport Rider did a year ago, or so comparing wheel weights and Moments of Inertia.

Here you go:

http://www.sportrider.com/sportbike_...son/index.html

I'm putting a down payment on my bike at the end of the month, so Dean can't change his mind!
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Well I did it...

A fat down payment anyway. I don't know of a better '02 anywhere!
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Nice! Pilot Powers, Braking/Galfer waves, Mori High pipes, CF radiator gills, Sargent seat (?), CRG levers, tinted windscreen, let's assume Power Commander, yellow kevlar brake lines... I see a BVH sticker on the forks. Are they worked? How about the shock? And so now, I gotta ask....how much?
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:11 PM
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Hehehe, just read your first post. What happened to waiting a year? Did she bend or doesn't she know yet?
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Well, it's not in my garage. We haven't talked about it in months.
She doesn't "know". She probably wouldn't be surprised. I don't want to talk about it

It has an Ohlins shock with high and low speed compressoin damping adujustment. Bob H did the forks. Also a Mori shock link, brand new DID ERV2 chain and sprockets, Scotts steering damper.

I'm paying a lot, but it is set up exactly how I want it. These things sell at about $6k, but the shock is $1100, exhaust $1200. Also it only has 5k miles on the motor I built. Paying $7k. I've known the bike since new, played on the street and track with it. Some sentimental value there, too.
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So you're buying back your own work. Now there's a concept. That's really cool. We all want to see the pictures when you get possession.

Wifey probably has been preparing for this so she might not be entirely surprised. You can leave out the pictures of you tied to a tree with her flogging you! Just don't tell her the price and emphasize the "work of art" thing!



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