Thanks for the input. I grew up in SoCal till I was 23. Ortega is kind of a warm up type deal for me. Alot of places for CHP to hide, but my buddy has been down once on a road a bit more technical than Ortega so I think that willl suffice for a first ride. We do plan on making the trek down to Escondito and ride Palomar MTN with a buddy stationed on North Island. I just want to make sure that GSXR dude can hang. (With all that said I dont know why I even posted in group ride, I wouldnt want to go on a ride with possible baby sitting duties either. lol )