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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 11:54 PM
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What type coolant do you use?

I want to change the SH's coolant. I was going to get the Honda brand stuff but, I wonder if prestone coolant is good enough...
Anything that is silicate free should be good right?
Should it be 50/50?
What's your coolant set up?
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Engine Ice .
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I was running Engine Ice but found when I was out on a road trip it was hard to find when I needed it. Now I just stick to the Pro Honda stuff.
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Honda car coolant. For a few bucks more than prestone and available at all Honda car dealers.
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Engine Ice here too....
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When I installed Samco silicone hoses, replaced coolant with Maxima racing Coolanol. It,s premixed, maybe a little pricey @ $16.00 per 2 quarts. Bike running 10 to 15 degrees cooler than before.
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Originally Posted by mikstr
Engine Ice here too....
Can engine ice go below freezing? Because I live in Philadelphia and I keep my SH in a unheated garage.
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nope

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it can in the presence of a antifreeze/coolant, ethylene or propylene glycol. Engine ice, and similar fluids, are a surfactant (reduce surface tension). They do not provide freeze protection.

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Originally Posted by MOONSTER
When I installed Samco silicone hoses, replaced coolant with Maxima racing Coolanol. It,s premixed, maybe a little pricey @ $16.00 per 2 quarts. Bike running 10 to 15 degrees cooler than before.
What is the max temp that you get on a fall day after riding for a while then stopping at a light? Mine goes well over 216F(when my fan switch engages) like 219F or 220F or even more I forgot.
When riding at speed it drops down like 13-20deg.

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Originally Posted by majordomo490
Honda car coolant. For a few bucks more than prestone and available at all Honda car dealers.
What is the highest your temps reached with the OEM coolant?
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Originally Posted by mikstr
Engine Ice here too....
Whats the highest temp on Engine Ice?
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Originally Posted by justinity
What is the max temp that you get on a fall day after riding for a while then stopping at a light? Mine goes well over 216F(when my fan switch engages) like 219F or 220F or even more I forgot.
When riding at speed it drops down like 13-20deg.

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Originally Posted by autoteach
nope

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it can in the presence of a antifreeze/coolant, ethylene or propylene glycol. Engine ice, and similar fluids, are a surfactant (reduce surface tension). They do not provide freeze protection.

Not trying to be a smart *** but engine ice offers freeze protection to -26 degrees farenheit . It also is a nontoxic propylene glycol formula . Info is right on the jug . This is a great product and it will noticeably reduce your operating temperatures .
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Don't you mean...




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Originally Posted by motormouth
Not trying to be a smart *** but engine ice offers freeze protection to -26 degrees farenheit . It also is a nontoxic propylene glycol formula . Info is right on the jug . This is a great product and it will noticeably reduce your operating temperatures .
Do you use it? When you took the water pump cover off was there build up scaling or was it clean?
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Originally Posted by motormouth
Not trying to be a smart *** but engine ice offers freeze protection to -26 degrees farenheit . It also is a nontoxic propylene glycol formula . Info is right on the jug . This is a great product and it will noticeably reduce your operating temperatures .
I don't know. My bike has it in right now (Engine Ice) and though I only have an analog needle on my bike, I really don't notice any difference.

I am glad I got the stuff for free or I might be a bit upset about the price they charge for it.

I will say that I am going back to "standard" coolant the next time it gets changed as I'm not sold on the benefits from running thew stuff but as always YMMV.
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Originally Posted by 8541Hawk
I don't know. My bike has it in right now (Engine Ice) and though I only have an analog needle on my bike, I really don't notice any difference.

I am glad I got the stuff for free or I might be a bit upset about the price they charge for it.

I will say that I am going back to "standard" coolant the next time it gets changed as I'm not sold on the benefits from running thew stuff but as always YMMV.
The standard would be? Honda/prestone?
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Originally Posted by justinity
Do you use it? When you took the water pump cover off was there build up scaling or was it clean?
I have used Engine Ice on every bike i have ever owned w/o any problems .
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We have tried the LP(orange)coolant, Honda pre-mixed, and engine ice. We are using the LP coolant in the 2003 RC-51, an engine ice in the 2005 RC-51 and have ridden the track days at Altanta. An i noticed no differents in temp. There is always the temp. climb while not in motion. Now on the other bikes (3 superhawks) these run the Honda pre-mix- and due to the changes of outside temp. in the mountains in NC. as less maintenance issues, with less concern of ride through all seasons.
Even in the climate controlled shop, the LP, and engine ice is removed from the RC's at the low temp. weather (No chances of freeze)
Also -From probably the most unliked, least respected, opinion- The only mechanic that touchs my bikes-30yr veteran flat track racer, Certified Honda master mechanic -"As long as the dam fan is coming on to cool the bike back down, and the coolant is what suppose to be put in the system. Then what is the problem?"
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Originally Posted by justinity
The standard would be? Honda/prestone?
I've been running the Honda brand but just about any would do.
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Originally Posted by motormouth
Not trying to be a smart *** but engine ice offers freeze protection to -26 degrees farenheit . It also is a nontoxic propylene glycol formula . Info is right on the jug . This is a great product and it will noticeably reduce your operating temperatures .
Well, smart *** I did overlook the antifreeze protection, but you live in AZ. If anyone here lives in the far Northern climates, a freeze protection of -27 is not adequate(Minnesota is a great example). And many of the other additives do not provide any protection from freezing. I do have to say this, if your fan comes on, and it runs and turns off, you do not have a cooling system problem of any sort, whatsoever. As far as regular coolant, there are many flavors. Orange, yellow, green, red, blue, and more.
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Originally Posted by autoteach
Well, smart *** I did overlook the antifreeze protection, but you live in AZ. If anyone here lives in the far Northern climates, a freeze protection of -27 is not adequate(Minnesota is a great example). And many of the other additives do not provide any protection from freezing. I do have to say this, if your fan comes on, and it runs and turns off, you do not have a cooling system problem of any sort, whatsoever. As far as regular coolant, there are many flavors. Orange, yellow, green, red, blue, and more.

I would agree to everything you said , i was just answering the question if this would work in below freezing temperatures , meaning below 32 degrees farenheit and it seems that it would . I am sure the other products would work just fine as well . I have had good experience with the engine ice but to each his own .
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I was just poking fun at your smart *** inclusion. It is like saying "I mean no offense...". I appreciate it, though, as I had not looked into it at all and assumed it was like the other additives out there. The likely hood is that engine ice, unlike others, includes antifreeze ( a -glycol) that you could easily just have had in your system.

http://www.royalpurple.com/radiator-additive.html

http://www.importtuner.com/reviews/p.../photo_13.html

http://www.contingencyconnection.com/Wc59022e408e04.htm

These are all just surfactants, not antifreeze.
Old Oct 10, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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i use whatever is on sale for all my fluids
Old Oct 10, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by autoteach
I was just poking fun at your smart *** inclusion. It is like saying "I mean no offense...". I appreciate it, though, as I had not looked into it at all and assumed it was like the other additives out there. The likely hood is that engine ice, unlike others, includes antifreeze ( a -glycol) that you could easily just have had in your system.

http://www.royalpurple.com/radiator-additive.html

http://www.importtuner.com/reviews/p.../photo_13.html

http://www.contingencyconnection.com/Wc59022e408e04.htm

These are all just surfactants, not antifreeze.
I understand . No sweat , good info .
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Pro Honda premix.

And I use OEM Toyota in our 4x4's (86 Extracab, 98 4Runner, 07 Tacoma Double Cab Long Bed).

And always mix 50/50, if not premixed (some coolants say you can go 70/30 for extreme cold...but you wouldn't be riding your motorcycle then anyway...right?). You never want to run straight coolant, unless you want Jello in your cooling system.

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straight water with water wetter. no antifreeze. I love So Cal
Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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prestone premix...

As an aside, the opportunity to specifically control temperature exists. When I researched and then switched to my electric pump, I also found a temperature controler. For the standard cooling system it will provide a setable fan temperature. For those with an electric pump it will turn the pump on and off and also ramp up the pump speed.
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Preston Extended Life states on the bottle, silicate, borate, nitrate, and phosphate free. Other brands are comparable these days...

I still change evry 2 years & also add a bit of Water Wetter
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Originally Posted by Stevebis1
prestone premix...

As an aside, the opportunity to specifically control temperature exists. When I researched and then switched to my electric pump, I also found a temperature controler. For the standard cooling system it will provide a setable fan temperature. For those with an electric pump it will turn the pump on and off and also ramp up the pump speed.
I knew it would work. Did you notice anymore snap in the power?

As an aside, who is overheating? I am in wisconsin and have not had a temperature issue ever. Not even in Chicago, when the fan comes on it quickly goes off. I am still not sure overheating is an issue.



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