Track days
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I've got one coming up on 8/11, and another on 10/14. As a primer I'm taking an MSF Experienced Rider Course that is being offered in my area with a sportriding focus (taught by two local roadracers who are MSF instructors).
If anyone here is in the New England area he/she should really check out www.tonystrackdays.com
This guy is a retired champion roadracer and does a hell of a good job with his track days.
If anyone here is in the New England area he/she should really check out www.tonystrackdays.com
This guy is a retired champion roadracer and does a hell of a good job with his track days.
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Re: Track days
Just got back from the track. I've found that ground clearance gets to be an issue with the SH. My peg feelers are down to nubs. If I want to get much crazier I'm going to need high mount exhaust.
When I get a chance I'll have to post some pics of my tires and peg feelers. Funny stuff.
When I get a chance I'll have to post some pics of my tires and peg feelers. Funny stuff.
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You'll eventually find, the stock pegs minus feelers are still quite a ground clearance limitation. As are the "low" mount exhaust pipes, and even the side stand/kickstand.
I'll find out in october how the new Gilles rearsets do in gaining ground clearance compared to the stock pegs.
If you can, install a "shim"(just a washer works, it's easy to insert/remove if you cut one section of it out, making it a "U" shape) of between 2 and 6mm between the rear shock mounting bolt and it's upper mount. The 2-6mm shim will change ride height by between 6 and 20mm. That gains you some ground clearance on the exhaust and side stand. It may sound like 20mm won't get you much, but it really does. I went from griding the side pipes and the leading edge of the cans to grinding the edge of the kickstand/sidestand. It also helps out the handling a tad bit.
I'll find out in october how the new Gilles rearsets do in gaining ground clearance compared to the stock pegs.
If you can, install a "shim"(just a washer works, it's easy to insert/remove if you cut one section of it out, making it a "U" shape) of between 2 and 6mm between the rear shock mounting bolt and it's upper mount. The 2-6mm shim will change ride height by between 6 and 20mm. That gains you some ground clearance on the exhaust and side stand. It may sound like 20mm won't get you much, but it really does. I went from griding the side pipes and the leading edge of the cans to grinding the edge of the kickstand/sidestand. It also helps out the handling a tad bit.
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One word of warning if you are like me. I'm a firm believer that if 2-6mm is good, by gosh 30 or 40 mm will REALLY make a difference.
If you install too many shims (or shims too thick), you'll end up changing the angle of the swing-arm and chain. To make a long story short, the chain will rub on the swingarm and rubber protector on it's run back to the front sprocket. yeah, you can raise it THAT much with just about 5-6 washers.
I also had a problem with the suspension linkage "dogbones" hitting the stock exhaust header pipe from the rear cylinder. NOT a good thang.
Keep it within moderation, and once you're "happy" with the adjustment, have a buddy watch the chain and rear shock linkage to make sure nothing binds/hits.
If you install too many shims (or shims too thick), you'll end up changing the angle of the swing-arm and chain. To make a long story short, the chain will rub on the swingarm and rubber protector on it's run back to the front sprocket. yeah, you can raise it THAT much with just about 5-6 washers.
I also had a problem with the suspension linkage "dogbones" hitting the stock exhaust header pipe from the rear cylinder. NOT a good thang.
Keep it within moderation, and once you're "happy" with the adjustment, have a buddy watch the chain and rear shock linkage to make sure nothing binds/hits.
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The Gilles rearsets aren't much cheaper, but I was able to pick them up for $414 including shipping.
The VTR1000F specific units are a special order item from the UK, but you can't beat the price.
http://www.shift-tech.com
or info@shift-tech.com
The VTR1000F specific units are a special order item from the UK, but you can't beat the price.
http://www.shift-tech.com
or info@shift-tech.com
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Never had a problem with ground clearance on my VTR, I've got the Fox TC shock in there and the ride height is adjusted up a bit (I'd have to look in my log book to see exactly what I went with, but it was nothing radical).I get full use of my tires, that is for sure, but I've never touched any thing down. I do have the Moriwaki Ti Highmounts on.
I an not trying to start anything here, but maybe you guys need to hang off your bikes more?
If you are at the point where you are dragging the stock pegs I hope you have race profile tires on the bike, or your contact patch is going to be really small and that is not a safe place to be!
Ride safe!!
Cheers!
I an not trying to start anything here, but maybe you guys need to hang off your bikes more?
If you are at the point where you are dragging the stock pegs I hope you have race profile tires on the bike, or your contact patch is going to be really small and that is not a safe place to be!
Ride safe!!
Cheers!
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Never had a problem with ground clearance on my VTR, I've got the Fox TC shock in there and the ride height is adjusted up a bit (I'd have to look in my log book to see exactly what I went with, but it was nothing radical).I get full use of my tires, that is for sure, but I've never touched any thing down. I do have the Moriwaki Ti Highmounts on.
I an not trying to start anything here, but maybe you guys need to hang off your bikes more?
If you are at the point where you are dragging the stock pegs I hope you have race profile tires on the bike, or your contact patch is going to be really small and that is not a safe place to be!
Ride safe!!
Cheers!
I an not trying to start anything here, but maybe you guys need to hang off your bikes more?
If you are at the point where you are dragging the stock pegs I hope you have race profile tires on the bike, or your contact patch is going to be really small and that is not a safe place to be!
Ride safe!!
Cheers!
Initially I may not have been hanging off enough, but I do now. I've got the knee sliders to prove it.
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