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gixxerjohn 01-13-2010 11:49 AM

projector group buy?
 
anyone interested in doing this?

i have done a few members bikes, and i was wondering if anyone was interested in having me do a few more....

there is a few options obviously

hid or no

if hid, then xenon or bi xenon

angel eyes

led lighting or no

just a few options, so if ppl are interested lmk, obviously the more i do, the cheaper the parts are to buy....


so pls any and all, speak up, lmk your thoughts

cheers

NVDutchie 01-13-2010 12:30 PM

I'm in
I will PM you Thursday with details/questions blah blah

thanks !

Daknut 01-13-2010 12:58 PM

any pics of HID's and angel eyes?? rough estimate on price?

gixxerjohn 01-13-2010 01:33 PM

no idea on price at this moment, i charge between 80-100 to do it, but the cost is really all in which parts you want, angel eyes are led or ccfl, and the hid's depends on if you just want hid's or with a projector and if you want the projector to be regular or bi-xenon, same with the bulb, there is regular bulbs and bi xenon bulbs....


so at the end of the day, its all about what you want, obviously the more you pay for the more you get... the most expensive one i did so far was a bi xenon projector with a clear lense and a bi xenon hid, with r8 style led's and ccfl angel eyes.....


all that stuff adds up.....

Stevebis1 01-13-2010 01:40 PM

For anyone who needs to pass inspection in NY this will have to be a bi xenon set up as both low and hi beams are required

gixxerjohn 01-13-2010 01:42 PM

actually not true, there are hid kits that offer a hi/low function, which is cheaper then bi xenon, and you can use that in a standard xenon projector...

andy9743 01-14-2010 05:52 AM

i would be interested, but know nothing of the options...price and differences would make my mind up for me i'm sure.

AdamK 01-14-2010 06:28 AM

I would like to see some pics if possible

ttocsmai 01-14-2010 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by AdamK (Post 250153)
I would like to see some pics if possible

+1

gixxerjohn 01-14-2010 07:25 AM

i dont have my cam here, the wife has it with her, but there is a post from uchi with it on here, with one i just made for him......

as i said the price is always reflective of the options, and the options are listed above


this is the post from uchi.....
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=20861

since doing this i decided that if i was to supply the parts, you would have more options, i just know that in the world of motorcycles, night riding is something we all do, and with the bs and excuses that ppl give us about not being able to see us, better light is something they cant ignore....


so again sorry i cant tell you the total price for all the bell's and whistles, but again the more i order i know the price will come down.... you can always get the parts your self and then have it done....

ttocsmai 01-14-2010 09:34 AM

I like the LED's but I would love to see one with dualing Cat's eyes and LEDs on the sides. That would give some more light at night and look pretty cool at the same time.

gixxerjohn 01-14-2010 11:22 AM

anything can be done, just tell me what you would want, and i can make it happen,

AdamK 01-14-2010 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by gixxerjohn (Post 250239)
anything can be done, just tell me what you would want, and i can make it happen,

I want you to move closer! :p

Red_Liner740 01-14-2010 01:21 PM

i'm a bit confused...

where are you going to get these projectors from? which HID kits would u use....

i have 3 projector housings sitting in my living room now from various cars but they arent meant for HID, although you can put one in.

i right now have a BMW projector with an H1 HID bulb from my E34.

much better lighting than stock headlight

AdamK 01-14-2010 01:27 PM

OK I am going to sound like such a newb so take your shot but here it goes… Projectors, do they do anything or is
is cosmetic? I had an HID system in my bike and removed it cause it was only a low beam and that
sucked, as much as I like the brightness I couldn’t stand not having a high beam. Also, now that I
have remove that set up can I sell that since I don’t think it was even for the SH but “FIT” so it would work kinda thing.
Also I have a stock head light housing on my SH so would I have to butcher that up to make a projector fit? Or is it a whole new assembly?
Or does this fall into that long long list of “ifs”?

I am so lost.

Red_Liner740 01-14-2010 02:15 PM

projectors designed for HID and HID kit in it are 10x better than regular reflective housing...

uchi 01-14-2010 09:37 PM

a retrofit is fantastic, its much brighter than the oem garbage and will give you a solid light plus not blind people. really with an hid and a retrofit you dont need a high beam. i ran just the hid in the stock housing and it was brighter than my hi beams were. ill vouch for gixxerjohn, the man does some fantastic work

AdamK 01-15-2010 06:47 AM

In another thread, there was talk about how getting a wiring harness upgrade or getting a heavier guage wire (can't remember exacts) will dramatically improve your headlight as well. Does that stand true for HID set ups too? As I said in a previous post I have one with only a low beam and if it was just a little brighter I may go back to it. Thoughts?

gixxerjohn 01-15-2010 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by AdamK (Post 250250)
I want you to move closer! :p


as i said its all in what you pay for, if your paying for it, sure

gixxerjohn 01-15-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Red_Liner740 (Post 250260)
i'm a bit confused...

where are you going to get these projectors from? which HID kits would u use....

i have 3 projector housings sitting in my living room now from various cars but they arent meant for HID, although you can put one in.

i right now have a BMW projector with an H1 HID bulb from my E34.

much better lighting than stock headlight


Im a dealer for lighting kits, i sell hid's and projectors, i have brand new projectors, and they we have ones from headlights..... all of mine are HID specific ones, as the halogen ones arent really ment for HID's

gixxerjohn 01-15-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by AdamK (Post 250261)
OK I am going to sound like such a newb so take your shot but here it goes… Projectors, do they do anything or is
is cosmetic? I had an HID system in my bike and removed it cause it was only a low beam and that
sucked, as much as I like the brightness I couldn’t stand not having a high beam. Also, now that I
have remove that set up can I sell that since I don’t think it was even for the SH but “FIT” so it would work kinda thing.
Also I have a stock head light housing on my SH so would I have to butcher that up to make a projector fit? Or is it a whole new assembly?
Or does this fall into that long long list of “ifs”?

I am so lost.


if you want it done right, well there is 2 ways of doing it, you can mount a projector set up inside your housing and not damage it, or you can hack the snot out of it... its all in how you do it, and how you want to go. I can remove your original reflector housing and make you a base plate to which i mount the projector/projectors.

The kits im selling mainly will be Bi-xenon kits, which will give you a high and low beam, so you have both just like a stock set up...

if there is any other questions, pls feel free to pm me and ill answer all i can for you

gixxerjohn 01-15-2010 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by AdamK (Post 250346)
In another thread, there was talk about how getting a wiring harness upgrade or getting a heavier guage wire (can't remember exacts) will dramatically improve your headlight as well. Does that stand true for HID set ups too? As I said in a previous post I have one with only a low beam and if it was just a little brighter I may go back to it. Thoughts?


hid's dont require you to have a heavy duty wire harness as they draw less current then the normal headlight does, as most hid kits are a 35w kit, which is less then your standard bulb.

Now the start up on the hid kit is higher, which is why i always recommend that you run 1 step up on the headlight fuse, but other then that, nothing else to do, but plug it in, and go....

gixxerjohn 01-17-2010 09:53 AM

so far have a few ppl interested, 2 more to go till i can get the prices to drop on projectors and the hid kits....

gixxerjohn 01-24-2010 06:52 PM

up ya go,

Little_Horse 01-24-2010 07:11 PM

I have been running a HID projector for a while now and can vouche for the improvement. Its 100 times better. Further distance and clarity then you can get with a reflector, so if any one is sitting on the fence about putting one of these in I would say go for it, you won't regret it.

gixxerjohn 01-24-2010 07:14 PM

are you running a single or bi xenon ??


and thnx for the props

Syclone 01-24-2010 07:40 PM

would we be shipping you the stock headlight or would this be shipped as a do it yourself deal? What kind of price range are we looking at?

gixxerjohn 01-24-2010 07:42 PM

well there is 2 ways of doing it, either or.....

and well all depends what you want, as i told everyone else

im doing a few bi xenon set ups for ppl with led lighting, bi xenon projector and a real HID with the bi xenon for 350.....

and thats you sending it to me, the parts are about 300 bucks so im making 50 bucks on doing it.....

haknslash 01-24-2010 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by gixxerjohn (Post 250050)
and you can use that in a standard xenon projector...

More than likely focal point would be off. Seen it too often....

gixxerjohn 01-24-2010 07:46 PM

well you can use it... but the problem is, you get a bright "spot" in the middle of the projection, vs a nice clean cut beam.....

but again it depends on the projector your using

Little_Horse 01-24-2010 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by gixxerjohn (Post 251470)
are you running a single or bi xenon ??


and thnx for the props


I am running a single. If they are aimed right there is not much need for brights. As far as props it goes beyond that, its a much safer setup if you are going to ride at night. Some people don't have the skill set to do it themselves. Usually people spend alot of money on HP gains and don't even consider safety on their list.

gixxerjohn 01-25-2010 05:34 AM

well i run a bi-xenon setup with a sealed projector, and i honestly believe you do need it.... i mean when the single is brighter, the highbeam is above and beyond that, not to mention that this way my stuff will pass safety as well!!

but your rigth ppl always look beyond this, and dont consider that lighting is the most important thing on your bike for your personal safety.....

Erik S. 01-25-2010 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by cornandp (Post 251485)
Usually people spend alot of money on HP gains and don't even consider safety on their list.


Very true. My first upgrades were brakes (who cares how fast you can go if you can't safely stop) and lighting in the form of an Eastern Beaver Relay kit and a 85/80W bulb. Someday, I'll be able to get an HID in. Suspension was the big change for this off-season.

gixxerjohn 01-25-2010 06:23 AM

well if you want the HID done, i can have it done in 2 days, just need to know ahead of time to order up the parts for you.....


also keep in mind running a higher Watt bulb isnt always a good idea... since you said your running the 85/80

ttocsmai 01-25-2010 07:41 AM

I just want a dual light that will fit to the regular set up and give me plenty of light. I would like one if that is doable.

What is the cost and the turn around time involved? Anyone? anyone? Beuhler? beuhler?

gixxerjohn 01-25-2010 07:52 AM

as i said i am doing bi xenon, ie high and low beam set ups, as stated above im charging 350 for all the work, all the parts, to make it a plug and play setup, this comes complete with everything

if you dont want led's for daytime running lights or extra light, can subtract from the cost.... pm me if you want more details

Erik S. 01-25-2010 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by gixxerjohn (Post 251494)
well if you want the HID done, i can have it done in 2 days, just need to know ahead of time to order up the parts for you.....


also keep in mind running a higher Watt bulb isnt always a good idea... since you said your running the 85/80

John, if I hadn't just spent some money on the final pieces for my front end swap, I'd be more than willing to have you build one, but, the budget is blown.

As for the 85/80W, no problems, ran it all last summer, didn't even make the headlight lense warm to the touch. Couple of threads concerning this matter. Once you get up to 100W, some other members have had problems there.

This was an inexpensive solution to brighter lights. $55 for the Eastern Beaver Kit shipped and $20 for the bulb.

I don't have pictures to prove it, but it is brighter than the H4 HID kits. A friend in the club runs the H4 HIDs and while they are brighter up close, I have more lighter at a distance.

gixxerjohn 01-25-2010 09:24 AM

ive seen ppl bumping up watts in lights for years, on bikes, cars etc.... never really seen them be better then an hid, now if you just run a scattered hid bulb in a halogen base/light, then ya i could see that....

Erik S. 01-25-2010 09:27 AM

Not better than a true HID, better than the "HID" H4 bulbs. You know, the kits that the kids buy for $65, and they plug right into the H4 receptacle.

gixxerjohn 01-25-2010 09:28 AM

ya thats what i was saying


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