PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTION...URGENT
10-23-2007, 09:36 AM
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PLEASE GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTION...URGENT
hi
it was raining last night...i started up by bike let it run for abt 30 seconds and started going to school
about a quarter mile from home ..everything went off ...the lights the ignition everything ...i coasted to a stop and had to push it back home
it was riding fine and it just died
can anyone tell me whats going on?
cheers
hari
it was raining last night...i started up by bike let it run for abt 30 seconds and started going to school
about a quarter mile from home ..everything went off ...the lights the ignition everything ...i coasted to a stop and had to push it back home
it was riding fine and it just died
can anyone tell me whats going on?
cheers
hari
10-23-2007, 09:52 AM
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Sounds electrical in nature, check the fuses and go from there... if a fuse is blown check the wiring for any abrasions or missing wire insulation that might cause it to ground out to something metal on the bike
10-23-2007, 09:55 AM
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I agree. One other possiblity relates to having over-filled the fuel tank which can cause an air lock to develop, causing a fuel starvation issue. While this generally only happens when leaving the gas station, if you "jerry canned" it at home it may be something to look at too.
10-23-2007, 10:01 AM
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I agree. One other possiblity relates to having over-filled the fuel tank which can cause an air lock to develop, causing a fuel starvation issue. While this generally only happens when leaving the gas station, if you "jerry canned" it at home it may be something to look at too.
hi...can u explian what jerry can is?
i do think it could be electrical in nature as it just died ....it was running fine and boom it was gone
10-23-2007, 10:49 AM
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I hate it when people do this... but I couldn't resist since I've used a jerry can and I've done some jerry rigging.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_can
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_rig
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_can
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_rig
10-23-2007, 02:56 PM
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Check kickstand kill switch.... if everything died instantly I'd bet it's that, the main fuse, or a loose/broken battery cable.
If it was the R/R, more often than not, you'd start loosing bits and piece of the electrics as the battery dies... ex. gauges first, then headlight, then motor dies... usually takes a couple mintues for it all to happen... if it was all fine, then instant death... it seems like something different than bad battery or R/R.
If it was the R/R, more often than not, you'd start loosing bits and piece of the electrics as the battery dies... ex. gauges first, then headlight, then motor dies... usually takes a couple mintues for it all to happen... if it was all fine, then instant death... it seems like something different than bad battery or R/R.
10-24-2007, 12:35 AM
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more tests based on what you guys suggested...
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10-24-2007, 12:43 AM
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hi ...there is another message stating that it takes abt 2 mins for all failures to happen if its R/R...did this happen or did it just conk out?
how much did it cost to fix it? did u fix it urself or did you have to take it to a shop.
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10-24-2007, 04:32 AM
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When my RR went, it was not obvious at first. A couple times the bike died after riding for a while then went dead. It would then restart after charging the battery. I changed it before it actually conked out. Based on the facts, I would say something got wet. If it is not a fuse, there is likely a connector that is full of water somewhere. Pull your gauge cluster off and have a look at all of the wiring under there.
10-24-2007, 04:47 AM
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There is a main fuse I’m thinking on the right side of the bike where the + battery cable hooks up to. Fallow the + cable where it hooks up to if I remember right the starter relay. There is a fuse there which I believe is in series.
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10-24-2007, 08:09 AM
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do i have to take any fairings off to see this fuse?
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10-24-2007, 01:11 PM
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i wasn't paying much attention to the guages...driving in houston traffic on a bike is hard enough, all i know is that it died. no power anywhere. i want to say it was $100 - $120 or so to have a mechaninc change the r/r out.
10-24-2007, 04:51 PM
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Just looked at it if you take the seat off you can see the black box on the left side about half way back form the bolt that holds the rear plastic tail pice on. there is a little tab over the fuse take the one bolt off you can get at it better. fuse is under tab.
http://mckune-motorsports.com/
go to bike mods 2nd pic you can see it hanging there
Stumpy
http://mckune-motorsports.com/
go to bike mods 2nd pic you can see it hanging there
Stumpy
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10-25-2007, 08:37 AM
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Just looked at it if you take the seat off you can see the black box on the left side about half way back form the bolt that holds the rear plastic tail pice on. there is a little tab over the fuse take the one bolt off you can get at it better. fuse is under tab.
http://mckune-motorsports.com/
go to bike mods 2nd pic you can see it hanging there
Stumpy
http://mckune-motorsports.com/
go to bike mods 2nd pic you can see it hanging there
Stumpy
thanks ...i found it ...i found the main fuse burnt ..replaced another 30 A and it blew immediately ...tried another 15 A and it burnt the moment the contact was made ...so i am guessing there is a short there somewhere..please give me some suggestions on how to start trouble shooting this?
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10-25-2007, 09:12 AM
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well, try pulling out the other fuses and such you found and see if the short goes away - if so you then can narrow it down to a particular circuit - otherwise check over every inch of the wiring harnesses for any thing that is worn through... hopefully you will find it easily and not have to dig into the harnesses themselves to find it. good luck!
10-25-2007, 12:02 PM
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If the main fuse is bad any other fuse whould have burnt also I would look at the main wire first use a light between + on bat and + wire replace 30amp fuse the light will light up but not blow fuse due to light holding down the amps then look around untill you can get the light to go out there is your short. you might have more than one let me know what happens. or you can use a 10 amp braker will just keep going off and on rember battery has to be good. will kill it if you leave this way but amps low should not burn anything up. but dont just walk away and leave it not a good thing to do.
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10-25-2007, 05:17 PM
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hey stumpy
thanks ...i found it ...i found the main fuse burnt ..replaced another 30 A and it blew immediately ...tried another 15 A and it burnt the moment the contact was made ...so i am guessing there is a short there somewhere..please give me some suggestions on how to start trouble shooting this?
cheers
Hari
thanks ...i found it ...i found the main fuse burnt ..replaced another 30 A and it blew immediately ...tried another 15 A and it burnt the moment the contact was made ...so i am guessing there is a short there somewhere..please give me some suggestions on how to start trouble shooting this?
cheers
Hari
Pull off your tailpiece and unplug your r/r. With the battery still connected replace the fuse. If it doesn't blow it is the r/r with a short in it.
If the fuse still blows then you have the fun of being very familiar with your electrical system.
Good luck!
10-26-2007, 04:59 PM
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I blew my main fuse once.My rectifier had vibrated lose.the ground wire wasnt making contact.It ruined the rectifier,bought a new one and then the battery would not charge.had to replace the stator too.no problems since.Check out "electrosport" if you need to replace one or the other.Ive heard that the r/r goes out around 25,000 miles.Free sevice manual in" Knowledge base "
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10-31-2007, 11:16 AM
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Mine just did the same thing 2 months ago.
Pull off your tailpiece and unplug your r/r. With the battery still connected replace the fuse. If it doesn't blow it is the r/r with a short in it.
If the fuse still blows then you have the fun of being very familiar with your electrical system.
Good luck!
Pull off your tailpiece and unplug your r/r. With the battery still connected replace the fuse. If it doesn't blow it is the r/r with a short in it.
If the fuse still blows then you have the fun of being very familiar with your electrical system.
Good luck!
i think u might be onto something here..i am suspecting the R/R.....i would like some help in locating the R/R...is it possible we could talk on the phone ...if you will send me an email to vasaq@yahoo.com ..i will send you my number or you can send me yours ...i dont know whats the norm on asking for a number on a forum ..i hope its not considered inappropriate.
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10-31-2007, 11:17 AM
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I blew my main fuse once.My rectifier had vibrated lose.the ground wire wasnt making contact.It ruined the rectifier,bought a new one and then the battery would not charge.had to replace the stator too.no problems since.Check out "electrosport" if you need to replace one or the other.Ive heard that the r/r goes out around 25,000 miles.Free sevice manual in" Knowledge base "
10-31-2007, 11:18 AM
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well, try pulling out the other fuses and such you found and see if the short goes away - if so you then can narrow it down to a particular circuit - otherwise check over every inch of the wiring harnesses for any thing that is worn through... hopefully you will find it easily and not have to dig into the harnesses themselves to find it. good luck!
cheers
hari
10-31-2007, 11:19 AM
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If the main fuse is bad any other fuse whould have burnt also I would look at the main wire first use a light between + on bat and + wire replace 30amp fuse the light will light up but not blow fuse due to light holding down the amps then look around untill you can get the light to go out there is your short. you might have more than one let me know what happens. or you can use a 10 amp braker will just keep going off and on rember battery has to be good. will kill it if you leave this way but amps low should not burn anything up. but dont just walk away and leave it not a good thing to do.
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Stumpy ...i am not sure if I understand you ..and it kinda sounds scary ...do u think i should begin with Flyin hawks suggestion ? and if that doesnt work out try ur idea?
but thanks stumpy you have put me on track here though....
cheers
hari
10-31-2007, 11:44 AM
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hey guys
i just spoke to a guy at the local honda place ( a phone conversation)...he says if the R/R blew it would still start but the battery wouldnt charge. My battery still holds charge and he thinks that it could be the pulse generator or stator/alternator ....the stator seems to be expensive...do u think this is that serious?
cheers
Hari
i just spoke to a guy at the local honda place ( a phone conversation)...he says if the R/R blew it would still start but the battery wouldnt charge. My battery still holds charge and he thinks that it could be the pulse generator or stator/alternator ....the stator seems to be expensive...do u think this is that serious?
cheers
Hari
