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Old 05-29-2008, 04:06 PM
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Petition for lower gas prices

It's asking congress to allow exploration and drilling inside the US. We have more oil under our noses than most middle east countries, it's time to start using it.

http://www.americansolutions.com/act...b-346a1e096659
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by drew_c14
It's asking congress to allow exploration and drilling inside the US. We have more oil under our noses than most middle east countries, it's time to start using it.

http://www.americansolutions.com/act...b-346a1e096659
There's no easy answer, but I can tell you that I've seen twice the number of bikes out there lately and I'm sure those numbers will increase as gas continues goes up in price, so it's good for us cuz cagers are getting used to us being around

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Old 05-29-2008, 07:49 PM
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I agree - I was hoping for higher prices. Maybe I have a luxury of not needing to put many miles on per yer, but already I've noticed a big shift in the type/size of vehicles people are buying and an increase in 2 wheeled travel even here in the great white north. I've read a lot of arguments on each side debating the 'finite-ness' of this wonderful resource, but ultimately there is no debate except a matter of when - add in emerging huge populations using ever more of it and it can't help but get more precious and become more precious as more compete for it with their dollars. But I'm disgusted at the lack of progress we made in energy efficiency/alternatives by the past 35 years of leadership since my recollection of the first 'oil crisis' and I'd favor some moves in that direction for a change.

my 0.64 oz of gas (or 2 cents)

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There's no easy answer, but I can tell you that I've seen twice the number of bikes out there lately and I'm sure those numbers will increase as gas continues goes up in price, so it's good for us cuz cagers are getting used to us being around

my 2 cents...RC
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:35 AM
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I signed that petition last week as it went around my email box.

I'd gladly allow them to drill in my friggin' backyard. Damn tree huggers and EPA.

+1 for seeing alot more bikes out on the roads these days. I also can't remember a time when scooters of all things were even thought about realisticly for commuting. Now you see people on silverwings, vespas and those funky 3-wheeled Piaggio's.
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Signed bring on the 99 cent per gallon from th old days!
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:27 AM
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Good luck with petitions of this sort. The oil companies are behind the efforts to restrict domestic oil exploration and extraction. They have known for quite some time that there is abundant oil here in the US, but easy and cheap domestic oil doesn't fit in with their plans for artificial scarcity and artificial high prices.
Big Oil created and funds environmental groups to apply pressure to government and to propagandize the masses into believing their agenda--that domestic oil exploration is economically unfeasible and equals environmental disaster, that oil is scarce and that the Earth is running out of it, and that we're better off remaining dependent on foreign oil. As long as we're dependent on oil companies and government to "solve" our oil and energy problems, nothing will change.

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In the good old days it was .55 a gal then we got the OPEC embargo of '73 and total mismanagement in the Nixon, Ford, Carter administrations. You can sign all the petitions you want, but nothing will change. Political ineptness, corporate greed and cultural shortsightedness keep us all locked in this cycle.

To quote Alvin Tofler, "People don't change, technology changes, but people don't".

Rather than sign a pointless petition, go vote in the coming election. Just don't vote for anyone who is presently in office, vote out all incumbents. Churn the offices, eventually we'll get competence in the averages.
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Originally Posted by PUSHrod
Churn the offices, eventually we'll get competence in the averages.
Not if the two headed/one bodied party machine is still in control.
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As long as there is oil in the ground alternative will not be developed because
nothing can compete with the BTU in a gallon of gas and the price. So the fact
that this oil can come into market will prevent the kind of research needed
(manhatan project) nobody is into loosing money. There is a reason Buffet and
company are not investing their fortune in alternative energy. It is a loosing
proposition now. The President instead of going to the Saudis should just
issue an executive order allowing drilling for oil on all the federal land.
This will make OPEC take notice and lower the price of oil to keep the oil companies
at bay. In the 70's the price of oil made domestic drilling too expensive. I believe
the oil had to cost more than $17.00 a barrel to be economic worth while. Then
the crisis hit and gas started going up when congress put a cap on prices rationing
bagan. We don't want that again. Gas stations had banking hours and you
could only buy 5 gallons at a time. then we got rationing were the last digit on
your plate odd or even had to be gas up only on a odd or even day. You could sit
on a 3 block line and by the time it got to your turn the station stopped selling
gas. They had a green flag selling gas or a red flag not selling gas. aaaaaarrrrkk
On a good note I rediscover bicycling and went racing.
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