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07-21-2007, 12:31 PM
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07-21-2007, 02:09 PM
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about half way through I was thinking well at least most of them have gear and are practicing at tracks or deserted roads: its risky and learning is going to involve some injuries. But then the video went into all those street and highway scenes. That is beyond insane and no regard for others. Its also the source of a big focus in many cities right now on how to limit motorcycle rights because of all the negative attention that crap is attracting. Did anyone read of the law they are trying to pass in denver banning any aftermarket exhausts?
07-23-2007, 07:26 AM
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Does anyone know if the exhaust ban is Harely related? All those open headers. Not so much sport bikes being the problem.
Some people need to learn about the medical bills after. And some of them are. Its not cheap when you brake you neck and don't have a spare.
Some people need to learn about the medical bills after. And some of them are. Its not cheap when you brake you neck and don't have a spare.
07-23-2007, 09:12 AM
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[QUOTE=Lefin102;62142]Does anyone know if the exhaust ban is Harely related? All those open headers. Not so much sport bikes being the problem. [QUOTE]
Nope. Any and all bikes are open game. However it's under the officers discretion to pull someone over. They already have a noise ordinance but without all officers carrying a sound meter and knowing how to properly operate it, it's pretty much useless. My understanding is that if your exhaust does not have a DOT stamp on it you'll get ticketed. I'm referring to the Denver ordinance in the above ramblings...
I don't mind stunters as long as they are not pulling that crap on public roads. Some of the clips were at shows or in abandoned lots. Good for them. The idiots on the roads though **** me off. Not because they could get hurt. I hope they do. But b/c they people that have those idiots doing that in traffic around them see me on a 'crotch rocket' and think I'm the same time of person. Next thing you know, new laws and restrictions. Not to mention the vindictive asshats that don't give you room on the road b/c your one of 'them'. Rant off...
Nope. Any and all bikes are open game. However it's under the officers discretion to pull someone over. They already have a noise ordinance but without all officers carrying a sound meter and knowing how to properly operate it, it's pretty much useless. My understanding is that if your exhaust does not have a DOT stamp on it you'll get ticketed. I'm referring to the Denver ordinance in the above ramblings...
I don't mind stunters as long as they are not pulling that crap on public roads. Some of the clips were at shows or in abandoned lots. Good for them. The idiots on the roads though **** me off. Not because they could get hurt. I hope they do. But b/c they people that have those idiots doing that in traffic around them see me on a 'crotch rocket' and think I'm the same time of person. Next thing you know, new laws and restrictions. Not to mention the vindictive asshats that don't give you room on the road b/c your one of 'them'. Rant off...
07-23-2007, 04:16 PM
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Everyone has to start somewhere. I hang out with many stunters and practice lots... yes lots, not streets.
Granted doing it on the street isnt wise, ya gotta start somewhere and practice. Most of the time everything works, but sometimes things dont. Just the way it goes.
Granted doing it on the street isnt wise, ya gotta start somewhere and practice. Most of the time everything works, but sometimes things dont. Just the way it goes.
07-23-2007, 07:29 PM
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I'm not gonna argue that street stunting is smart. But lot stunting takes skills, and is a calculated risk in a closed environment, much like racing. Both also require serious bike control and concentration, and cojones. If this was a video montage of racers crashing, would you be trashing them, and their hobby, also?
And street stunting, while dangerous and stupid, is still not as dangerous and stupid as street racing, so lets condemn that too, while were at it. And I bet 90% of the people on here have done one, or both, of those things at least once in their lives. So all the squids dissing stunting; zip it
I'm not gonna argue that street stunting is smart. But lot stunting takes skills, and is a calculated risk in a closed environment, much like racing. Both also require serious bike control and concentration, and cojones. If this was a video montage of racers crashing, would you be trashing them, and their hobby, also?
And street stunting, while dangerous and stupid, is still not as dangerous and stupid as street racing, so lets condemn that too, while were at it. And I bet 90% of the people on here have done one, or both, of those things at least once in their lives. So all the squids dissing stunting; zip it
07-23-2007, 09:57 PM
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Most of the crashes and scenes from the You-tube video are from a stunt video called "Judgement Day II" its actually pretty cool and one of the guys on there is a Local KC guy who is extremely cool and talented, but i agree...I'll just stick to the curves and take my bike home in one piece. Ill never understand why you would risk trashing your bike to impress a stranger, i would rather impress them by dissapering on a curve and then explaining to them why they should of bought a VTR! HAha
07-24-2007, 09:16 AM
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I don't think anyone is dissing stunting. personally, I think they are some of the most incredible skills and balancing acts out there. But we are criticising practicing it in traffic, which is not only dumb, but really dangerous to others. Like the clip of the bike freewheeling down the fourlane! I don't care to share a road with something like that.
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I'm not gonna argue that street stunting is smart. But lot stunting takes skills, and is a calculated risk in a closed environment, much like racing. Both also require serious bike control and concentration, and cojones. If this was a video montage of racers crashing, would you be trashing them, and their hobby, also?
And street stunting, while dangerous and stupid, is still not as dangerous and stupid as street racing, so lets condemn that too, while were at it. And I bet 90% of the people on here have done one, or both, of those things at least once in their lives. So all the squids dissing stunting; zip it
I'm not gonna argue that street stunting is smart. But lot stunting takes skills, and is a calculated risk in a closed environment, much like racing. Both also require serious bike control and concentration, and cojones. If this was a video montage of racers crashing, would you be trashing them, and their hobby, also?
And street stunting, while dangerous and stupid, is still not as dangerous and stupid as street racing, so lets condemn that too, while were at it. And I bet 90% of the people on here have done one, or both, of those things at least once in their lives. So all the squids dissing stunting; zip it
07-24-2007, 11:59 AM
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I agree with that 100%, ive ridden with guys who are absolutely ignorant and a few times I have actually left them becasue i just wasnt in the mood to watch someone get creamed. It makes the actual "good" riders look bad becasue everyone stereotypes after one rider splits lanes on one wheel, while it does take talent, its extremely foolish. Cheers, to you for being respectful of others!! 
07-25-2007, 03:13 PM
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I hope no one go the idea that I was slamming stunters, cause I wasn't. I think it is cool in the right place and time, just not on the streets. The save at the end was difinitely cool.
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