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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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It's broken again

Blooming thing has gone wrong again this time front cam chain tensioner does any one have a head with valves I can buy or know of any one thanks
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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There are four rear heads for sale on ebay, but no front heads. I guess the fronts are more prone to failure. Would a rear work on the front? JB
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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Damn girl, WTF? I better just shut up and put the apes on!
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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BTW, love the bloomin'. Beats bloody any day! Mind the Gap.
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FRONT-CYLINDER...#ht_500wt_1182

Here's one at a very good price ebay UK (same thing cost me £100 two years ago) - And get manual CCTs pronto!
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I'm not sure tbh I didn't even check when I brought the last one I only need the valves but they are £23 each
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicky
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FRONT-CYLINDER...#ht_500wt_1182

Here's one at a very good price ebay UK (same thing cost me £100 two years ago) - And get manual CCTs pronto!
Thanks got it saved in my eBay. Right considering the cost of this item £65 + £15 post is it worth me getting this or four new valves at £23 each

also once I have done this repair is there any thing else likely to go wrong

Thanks
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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regulator rectifiers tend to go. unless you have the new ribbed design. or you can mod one from a pre-FI R6.
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by swordfish
regulator rectifiers tend to go. unless you have the new ribbed design. or you can mod one from a pre-FI R6.
I had this problem with my 04 blade went through 2 generators I know you can buy an updated rectefier fir vfr's is thereone for vtr?
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Becky B
I had this problem with my 04 blade went through 2 generators I know you can buy an updated rectefier fir vfr's is thereone for vtr?
Yup... It's made by Yamaha and it's marked R1 (-98)...
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by swordfish
regulator rectifiers tend to go. unless you have the new ribbed design. or you can mod one from a pre-FI R6.

Mmmm Ribbed for her pleasure
Old Mar 16, 2010 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Becky B
I had this problem with my 04 blade went through 2 generators I know you can buy an updated rectefier fir vfr's is thereone for vtr?
Pretty much the same part I think Becky. It may be exactly the same. I have both bikes but have never done a "match up" between the parts to be certain. I know a mate of mine fitted a CBR unit to his VFR once when his bike died on a trip.

The later model rectifiers have better cooling due to the ribbed heat sink, and give much less trouble than earlier models. If your bike has one of these units I would leave it alone. Between my bikes I have two of them and they both work ok.

You have been unlucky with the CCT failures. Unfortunately this is what can happen with them. Some bikes go for ever without a problem, and some will have a CCT let go without warning causing damage. Manual CCT's give piece of mind I guess.
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:42 AM
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What difference does a manual cct do to the one I have now i've never heard of this before :-)
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 03:43 AM
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An R/R is an R/R. Just have to match up the wiring. Like they've said, get one with big fins. OR, shell out some money for a www.motovoltage.com R/R. They're made by CircuitBrnr, a member on this site, have a lifetime warranty (something you won't find anywhere else) and are race tested. I tried the R1/R6 method, burnt it out. Have a Motovoltage R/R now, if I sell the bike, it's coming with me and getting installed into whatever I buy next.
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Becky B
What difference does a manual cct do to the one I have now i've never heard of this before :-)
The two weak parts on our bikes are the CCTs and the R/Rs. Manual CCTs are aftermarket replacements with APE being the main vendor. Basically the whole adjusting mechanism is replaced with a bolt. http://cbrzone.com/sprockets.html

The install procedure is listed here: https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=11275
and here is a slightly different write up I did for my bike: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/219618/cctwt.pdf

It's an easy install and once done you don't ever have to worry about a CCT failing again. Just check the chain tension every time you check your valve clearance.. I have yet to hear of one needing adjustment, but it's still a good idea to check since they will no longer auto adjust.

For R/Rs there are aftermarket ones like electrosport, or motovoltage, or there are Yamaha ones to swap, or just get newer OEM ones that are better but not perfect
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by lazn
The two weak parts on our bikes are the CCTs and the R/Rs. Manual CCTs are aftermarket replacements with APE being the main vendor. Basically the whole adjusting mechanism is replaced with a bolt. http://cbrzone.com/sprockets.html

The install procedure is listed here: https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=11275
and here is a slightly different write up I did for my bike: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/219618/cctwt.pdf

It's an easy install and once done you don't ever have to worry about a CCT failing again. Just check the chain tension every time you check your valve clearance.. I have yet to hear of one needing adjustment, but it's still a good idea to check since they will no longer auto adjust.

For R/Rs there are aftermarket ones like electrosport, or motovoltage, or there are Yamaha ones to swap, or just get newer OEM ones that are better but not perfect

just been on the link right i might be being a bit of a div here but what parts do i actually need because theres loads listed seeing as i have head of front i may aswell do rear again to stop this nonsense and actually enjoy my summer
Old Mar 17, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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All you need in addition to whatever you need for your repair: are two APE CCTs and gaskets.
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Thanks got it saved in my eBay. Right considering the cost of this item £65 + £15 post is it worth me getting this or four new valves at £23 each
Don't forget to factor in the cost of valve seals, keepers (at a minimum) and having the valve seats re-cut.
Old Mar 18, 2010 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by inderocker
Don't forget to factor in the cost of valve seals, keepers (at a minimum) and having the valve seats re-cut.
i never done this with the other one i replaced
Old Mar 18, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Becky B
i never done this with the other one i replaced
Did you just replace the valves or the whole head? If you do the whole head as a unit you don't need to.

But if you put in new valves, they won't seat where the old ones were, so there is more to do than just slap them in there.
Old Mar 18, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lazn
Did you just replace the valves or the whole head? If you do the whole head as a unit you don't need to.

But if you put in new valves, they won't seat where the old ones were, so there is more to do than just slap them in there.
Oh I see yea I replaced the whole head last time I've got the stuff to do the valves
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