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Old 08-29-2010, 11:54 AM
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My chain is very lose (hits my pipes) and the wheel is all the way down the swing arm is this dangerous to ride?





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Old 08-29-2010, 12:22 PM
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Is the chain propery adjusted? At the end of adjustors (full out) yet? By looks of just the rear sprocket...I'd be ordering a set.

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short answer, yes

When you are backed all the way out on the chain adjusters you should get a new chain. Chances are if you wore the chain out (and by the looks of it that was done a long time ago) your sprockets are probably on their way out. Worst case the chain breaks apart and takes a piece of your leg with it.

Also based on the look of the chain i would say it has not been waxed or oiled in a long long time. Doing this on the regular will increase chain life as well as giving you some piece of mind.
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Old 08-29-2010, 12:28 PM
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hmmmmm yes,that can be very dangerous,mine is in a little better condition,but mine isnt strecthed out as far as yours.the teeth do look worn and chain is kinked,it might be because theres to many links anyway,mine is stretched pretty bad but not to where its hitting pipes.but over all,you need new chain and sprockets bad.its 101 links in case youre wondering.i wouldnt ride until problem is fixed.too dangerous in my opinion.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:23 PM
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Yes, order an entire new set right now if that's an option for you. If not you HAVE to at least get a new chain.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:50 PM
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Haven't seen a chain like that in quite some time. Not since my boy left his bicycle out in the rain for a week or two.
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by saige
its 101 links in case youre wondering.i wouldnt ride until problem is fixed.too dangerous in my opinion.
Correction...it's 102 links with stock gearing (16/41). I just replaced mine last week.

I had over 41,000 miles on the original, and it was just on the edge of the "replace" indicator on the adjuster. But it was way overdue, many tight links. My rear sprocket wasn't as bad as yours though. I agree with what others have said, stop riding until you replace it.
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What about me? Do I need a new one? Ha.
I either have a 43 or 45 tooth sprocket (cant remember). I only have 15 full teeth left on there....time for some repairs.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by john3012
What about me? Do I need a new one? Ha.
I either have a 43 or 45 tooth sprocket (cant remember). I only have 15 full teeth left on there....time for some repairs.

ummmmmm yes,you do very badly,i really hope you joking because that is very very bad,thats death waiting around the corner.
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Thanks for every one who replied. I am going to order a new set. I was looking and I found this site selling a chain and sprockets set

Better more expensive set
http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/3703...00f-97-06.html

Cheaper set
http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/3149...00f-97-06.html

What one should I go with they have the option to change the gear ratio
I was going to order the first one

http://www.sprocketcenter.com/c/1618...00f-97-06.html

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Old 09-06-2010, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish
Is the chain propery adjusted? At the end of adjustors (full out) yet? By looks of just the rear sprocket...I'd be ordering a set.

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Yes it is full out
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Old 09-06-2010, 12:55 PM
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The cheaper set looks like the original equipment chain to me. Depends on whether you want to spend $40 to get a better than stock chain.

For the riding I do (I'm not wheelie happy) I like the stock gearing. But many others go lower.
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The new chain will last longer if you clean it and lubricate it. It's worth investing in a rear stand to make these and other jobs easier. You can clean the chain with kerosene and a brush. Some people use toothbrushes with the bristles cut down. Others get a chain brush from a bike shop. There is a wide range of opinion about which chain lube is best. Do a search and take your pick. Having the proper amount of chain slack and keeping the wheels aligned also are important.
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Under any circumstances the better care you provide the longer the life. Approach the 520 conversion with caution. I just did it and I'm not sure of the gains. Couple weeks will tell all.
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Originally Posted by comedo
The new chain will last longer if you clean it and lubricate it. It's worth investing in a rear stand to make these and other jobs easier. You can clean the chain with kerosene and a brush. Some people use toothbrushes with the bristles cut down. Others get a chain brush from a bike shop. There is a wide range of opinion about which chain lube is best. Do a search and take your pick. Having the proper amount of chain slack and keeping the wheels aligned also are important.

What would you recommended for for lubing the chain, I bought chain wax is this any good?
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Old 09-08-2010, 09:46 AM
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I recently switched to Motul Chain Lube: http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/...tul-Chain-Lube . It works well and dries quickly so it won't sling off and get all over your bike. It also doesn't attract dirt like some lubes do, because it's not sticky once it dries.

There are other lubes that work just as well, but this one was at my local shop. I'd avoid the sticky lubes. They lubricate well, but make a huge mess.
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Dear Justinity,
Just about any chain lube from a motorcycle shop will do the job. Some need to be applied more frequently than others. Some stick to the chain better than others. Some attract dirt less than others.
Some people swear by WD-40. What you've got is fine.
Right now I'm using Dupont teflon multi-use lubricant. It comes in a spray can. I got it at Lowes. It's cheaper than most chain lubes.

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Old 09-08-2010, 11:29 AM
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I'm new to this, but I read or heard somewhere that using Kersosene leaves a little bit of a film, which is un-wanted. If I remember right, the guy said to just use a dry rag and wipe off the old grease really well then re-lube. Any effort to clean more than that causes more problems in prolonging the life of the chain than it does to help.... seemed reasonable when I heard it.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:43 PM
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Well do my sprockets look ok, or should I get the set?

http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/3149...00f-97-06.html
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Originally Posted by justinity
Well do my sprockets look ok, or should I get the set?

http://www.sprocketcenter.com/p/3149...00f-97-06.html
Some will disagree...they always do , but you should always replace chain and sprockets as a set.
New chain on old sprockets wears a lot faster...you'll get better mileage out of your chain if you replace the lot.

Check out my beginners guide to doing the job if you want...

http://www.haymouth.co.uk/phpBB3/vie...p?f=31&t=16500

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Old 09-10-2010, 11:38 PM
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WD-40??? No!! Not even to clean a chain!! It forces any and all lube in the links out. Bad thing on O or X ring chains. Kerosene the same. I clean mine with light weight motor oil....oil to clean off oil. It works and will not damage your chain. Tons of rags and a brush too.

To lube....Scotoiler. 2nd to none!!!

520 conversion....will handle the HP of the hawk. Mine done LONG ago.


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Originally Posted by john3012
What about me? Do I need a new one? Ha.
I either have a 43 or 45 tooth sprocket (cant remember). I only have 15 full teeth left on there....time for some repairs.
no john, yours is fine. You still have 15 full teeth to catch if the chain slips a bit. Probably good for another 10-15000miles.
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I clean chain and sprockets(gunk around edges of teeth) with a rag/brush and silicon spray. Chain wax and other chain lubes seem to attract dirt. After you clean chain, I lube with a little gear oil and wipe off well or teflon spray alterantely. Remove chain guard for ease of cleaning and aligning sprockets when adjusting chain.

520 conversion is awesome if you buy quality chain and sprockets and take a little care. I wouldn't skimp on this especially after I went through a vortex alum sprocket in 3000 miles(sum of all parts ebay junk). Never again. Drive is train too important.
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okay i was wrong...there were 16 teeth left out of 45. i just went back to stock gearing and it feels like a brand new bike.

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What about me? Do I need a new one? Ha.
I either have a 43 or 45 tooth sprocket (cant remember). I only have 15 full teeth left on there....time for some repairs.
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Originally Posted by john3012
okay i was wrong...there were 16 teeth left out of 45. i just went back to stock gearing and it feels like a brand new bike.
that's strange. Hell I would have thought you wouldn't have noticed any difference.
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Originally Posted by john3012
okay i was wrong...there were 16 teeth left out of 45. i just went back to stock gearing and it feels like a brand new bike.
**** That's awesomely horrible.
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Talking chain chain chain............

Dude are you kidding me........least you got your moneys worth.
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okay i was wrong...there were 16 teeth left out of 45. i just went back to stock gearing and it feels like a brand new bike.
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