Bike Stands
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If you want a Rear Stand get this http://www.pit-bull.com/Merchant2/me...de=rear_stands which works on unspooled & spooled swing arms (I added spools with inserts to the VTR).
Get your best price with shipping and/or tax and PM me and I'll see what I can do for you (or anyone).
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Don't laff. It's been working fine for the past ten years. Hacked up cart from a home supply chain store that was broken and sitting in the alley:
Total cost: $0 (well I did use up a couple of dremel wheels)
Total cost: $0 (well I did use up a couple of dremel wheels)
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Hey, I can laugh, but I’ll do it for your ingenuity. Good job, way to recycle.
I welded up one from square tube laying around the garage. Had to buy the wheels and some pins though.
I welded up one from square tube laying around the garage. Had to buy the wheels and some pins though.
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Sorry I can't take credit for it. I got the idea from the original superhawk forum back on sport-twin.com (hence the 10 years comment). Somebody discovered and posted a link was from a brit m/c site.
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However, does the one hour and $12 (really) include design & engineering time, time and expenses for picking up the material (excluding direct material costs); consumable material costs; tooling design and fabrication time and costs; amortization of equipment, facility and utility costs; fees; taxes; product, general liability, health and workers comp insurance; container & shipping costs; profit & overhead; indirect costs including interest and cost of money; and what it cost did or will cost when your better half comes into play?
If you have not guessed, I started out as a design, manufacturing and industrial aeropspace enginer (with Convair).
BTW, see the new thread I just started for a Forum Pit Bull Group Buy!
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I designed it as I have every other I've built; they have all worked in the past, with no failures, so no R&D time for this unit.
The $12 included consumables used in this project.
No new tools, jigs were fabricated or bought for this project.
Wifely unit wants front and rear stands for her bike,,,,, ya, she’s fine with me doing what I love.
No, I did not figure in utilities, as this is a private residence, all costs are already accounted for except the extra electricity.. ok, so I'll revise the project cost.
$12.32
Hmm non destructive failure analyses,,,, Maybe..........
Very nice!
However, does the one hour and $12 (really) include design & engineering time, time and expenses for picking up the material (excluding direct material costs); consumable material costs; tooling design and fabrication time and costs; amortization of equipment, facility and utility costs; fees; taxes; product, general liability, health and workers comp insurance; container & shipping costs; profit & overhead; indirect costs including interest and cost of money; and what it cost did or will cost when your better half comes into play?
If you have not guessed, I started out as a design, manufacturing and industrial aeropspace enginer (with Convair).
BTW, see the new thread I just started for a Forum Pit Bull Group Buy!
However, does the one hour and $12 (really) include design & engineering time, time and expenses for picking up the material (excluding direct material costs); consumable material costs; tooling design and fabrication time and costs; amortization of equipment, facility and utility costs; fees; taxes; product, general liability, health and workers comp insurance; container & shipping costs; profit & overhead; indirect costs including interest and cost of money; and what it cost did or will cost when your better half comes into play?
If you have not guessed, I started out as a design, manufacturing and industrial aeropspace enginer (with Convair).
BTW, see the new thread I just started for a Forum Pit Bull Group Buy!
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LOL, thanks, but it'll be fine,, Not the first stand I've built.
The cradle is made from 1x.120 wall tube. The lower joint is reinforced and pined on the inside before welding with a 4" long piece of steel rod bent to shape.
I have track stands still in use I made long ago,,,They are still holding up to track use with a TZ250J.. That should give you an idea how old they are..LOL
But your guys are right, a straight un reinforced butt welded 90 deg at that joint would be a possible point of failure on a heavy street bike....That’s why I pin um on the inside.
Thanks for the ideas though.
If my tube bender did small square tubing, I would not cut and piece this stuff. But I'm only set up to do 2" DOM .90 wall round stuff. though now that I'm out of 4WD and off road racing....... hmmmmmm, new set of dies..... sell the old ones,,,,, hmmmmmmmmmmm
The cradle is made from 1x.120 wall tube. The lower joint is reinforced and pined on the inside before welding with a 4" long piece of steel rod bent to shape.
I have track stands still in use I made long ago,,,They are still holding up to track use with a TZ250J.. That should give you an idea how old they are..LOL
But your guys are right, a straight un reinforced butt welded 90 deg at that joint would be a possible point of failure on a heavy street bike....That’s why I pin um on the inside.
Thanks for the ideas though.
If my tube bender did small square tubing, I would not cut and piece this stuff. But I'm only set up to do 2" DOM .90 wall round stuff. though now that I'm out of 4WD and off road racing....... hmmmmmm, new set of dies..... sell the old ones,,,,, hmmmmmmmmmmm
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I own 2 Pitbulls, one convertible and one for SSA Hondas (lil Hawk), and they're great.
Solid as a ROCK, my daughters can play all over both bikes and they've never fallen.
I'd like a front forklift conversion, but can't swing $195 (the Pitbull price) right now. I have used a jack and block for the front, but it makes me nervous when the forks are off.
A serious discount, and I'd seriously consider buying (since the bike will sit for at least 6mo this summer, while I'm in the Gulf).
Solid as a ROCK, my daughters can play all over both bikes and they've never fallen.
I'd like a front forklift conversion, but can't swing $195 (the Pitbull price) right now. I have used a jack and block for the front, but it makes me nervous when the forks are off.
A serious discount, and I'd seriously consider buying (since the bike will sit for at least 6mo this summer, while I'm in the Gulf).
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Very nice!
However, does the one hour and $12 (really) include design & engineering time, time and expenses for picking up the material (excluding direct material costs); consumable material costs; tooling design and fabrication time and costs; amortization of equipment, facility and utility costs; fees; taxes; product, general liability, health and workers comp insurance; container & shipping costs; profit & overhead; indirect costs including interest and cost of money; and what it cost did or will cost when your better half comes into play?
If you have not guessed, I started out as a design, manufacturing and industrial aeropspace enginer (with Convair).
BTW, see the new thread I just started for a Forum Pit Bull Group Buy!
However, does the one hour and $12 (really) include design & engineering time, time and expenses for picking up the material (excluding direct material costs); consumable material costs; tooling design and fabrication time and costs; amortization of equipment, facility and utility costs; fees; taxes; product, general liability, health and workers comp insurance; container & shipping costs; profit & overhead; indirect costs including interest and cost of money; and what it cost did or will cost when your better half comes into play?
If you have not guessed, I started out as a design, manufacturing and industrial aeropspace enginer (with Convair).
BTW, see the new thread I just started for a Forum Pit Bull Group Buy!
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Craftsman lift
Ok, so just to finish out my thread, I finally got around to being able to use my Craftsman motorcycle jack. I had to remove the exhaust in order to use it, but once I did, it actually works pretty good. Comes with straps to secure the bike. Working great for pulling off the front forks...with the exception of one thing. What size wrench do I need to pull off the front axle. Looks like a 20mm but I only had up to a 18mm wrench. Going to have to purchase one just want to make sure which one I need....so....20mm? Anyone?
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Ok, so just to finish out my thread, I finally got around to being able to use my Craftsman motorcycle jack. I had to remove the exhaust in order to use it, but once I did, it actually works pretty good. Comes with straps to secure the bike. Working great for pulling off the front forks...with the exception of one thing. What size wrench do I need to pull off the front axle. Looks like a 20mm but I only had up to a 18mm wrench. Going to have to purchase one just want to make sure which one I need....so....20mm? Anyone?
Tou'll need other larger sizes for the rear axle and fork caps too.
BTW, build a craddle out of wood that bolts to the stand. The craddle should fit up so you don't have to remove the pipes which is a PITA. Front and rear stands obviate the need for a lift with craddle for everything except pulling the triple clamps and are lot more safe.
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I did that recently and always go that route with my wifes '74 CB750 (currently bieng rebuilt to cafe/superbike something) But, two weeks ago with the super hawk, the ratchets on the straps connected to the rafters froze up and wouldn't release. I had to hold the rear of the bike up (actually lift it to slack the straps) and had my wife unhook the straps from the bike. Talk about an effin work out but no one got hurt, most importantly the bike. Think i'll find a new way for the Superhawk, she isn't very light.
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Rafters..
I like the rafter idea but my bike has to unfortunately sleep in my storage shed. Well, you can forget getting to the rafters....talking at least 20 feet up there. No thanks. One day when I have my own shop though, definetely going to look that way.
So I used my lift to get off the front forks. I don't understand how the front bike stand allows getting off the front forks? What does the stand lift on to get the front end off the ground if the forks are getting removed? Is that a stupid question?
So I used my lift to get off the front forks. I don't understand how the front bike stand allows getting off the front forks? What does the stand lift on to get the front end off the ground if the forks are getting removed? Is that a stupid question?
