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Best Mirrors for Lane Splitting

Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Best Mirrors for Lane Splitting

Hello All,

Been commuting on my NT650 for a while, and just bought a VTR1000 to do the same.

What mirrors do you guys recommend for the VTR? (my "new" VTR is missing the right side mirror). OEM mirrors are rock solid and have good visibility but are right at car mirror height.

I would prefer to stay away from bar end mirrors in an effort to keep the bike as narrow as possible.

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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:35 AM
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Do they need to be narrow?

I have FZ1 mirrors and they stick way out, but when I clip a mirror, they just fold in and I keep on going. My bars are right about where most car mirrors are, and my mirrors are up by the trucks and vans mirrors. These vehicles are wider, so I suppose a lower mirror would clear them more often. Any narrower than that, and I'd worry about catching a bar. My mirrors are the widest thing on the bike, so I use them like a cat uses its whiskers.
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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haha just dont use mirrors problem solved, i never look back
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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I think the stockers are about as narrow as your going to get. I split everyday with no problems. Car/truck mirrors vary in height, no point in trying to match that.
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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No problem splitting with stockers. I had a friend who had bar ends on his '78 CB750F. He would fold the mirrors in when splitting.
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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And to the forum!
Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jbaxx
I think the stockers are about as narrow as your going to get. I split everyday with no problems. Car/truck mirrors vary in height, no point in trying to match that.
+1. I had problems seeing around me (6'1" and 250) with the stock mirrors so I bought the adapters that move the mirrors 3" out so I could see more than shoulders/elbow. They work great and I only smack a car/truck mirror maybe once/twice a year.

IMHO if you're splitting so close to cars/trucks that your mirrors hit/might hit, you probably shouldn't be splitting that gap. The only impact's I've had are from vehicles moving over on me.(like I said, 1-2 times a year, and I commute 100 miles a day on LA freeways)
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Do they need to be narrow?
IMHO if you're splitting so close to cars/trucks that your mirrors hit/might hit, you probably shouldn't be splitting that gap.
My commute has a 4 mile stretch of city roads where they have "added" a 4th lane (where there used to be 3 lanes + shoulder) which makes the lanes on the narrow side. Filtering thru stopped traffic in this one section is a bit tight, but yields huge time savings (going home by car = 40-50 minutes, by bike = 22-28 minutes). I'm not ripping thru traffic, just filtering thru stopped vehicles.

Haven't clipped a mirror yet.

haha just dont use mirrors problem solved, i never look back
That was the previous owners strategy, but I use the mirrors a ton while I ride. Riding with 1 mirror is driving me crazy, but the bike fits thru gaps a whole lot better.

I think the stockers are about as narrow as your going to get. I split everyday with no problems. Car/truck mirrors vary in height, no point in trying to match that.
Maybe I'm just used to a naked bike, but it seems like my HawkGT had nearly perfect mirror height-- just pull in your shoulder + elbow and the mirrors pass right over car and small SUV mirrors. The only problem I had were Ford + Chevy trailer tow mirrors, those suckers are really big.

I'll probably end up with stock VTR mirrors again and "re-learn" the bike width.

Has anyone tried these?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=370236734589
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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Always use your mirrors, You need to see that ******* behind you at the stop light that isn't stopping.
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by COLE
haha just dont use mirrors problem solved, i never look back
Agreed, I'm looking 100% forward for the myopic car driver who wants to change lane /right/ in front of you.

Paul.
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Having mirrors narrow enough for splitting is almost as bad as none at all. Because you won't be able to see behind you with em.

Once I clipped both sides at the same time! Another time I dragged the right mirror down the rivets on the side of a truck trailer.

These are pretty wide though, and give an awesome view behind me.

Old Aug 6, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by opsmgr
Agreed, I'm looking 100% forward for the myopic car driver who wants to change lane /right/ in front of you.

Paul.
This is a very bad way to go about it.
You need those mirrors to be able to check what's going on behind you. In fact, most motorcycle accidents occur while stopped at a stop sign or stop light.
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Those are some REALLY LONG mirrors.

Where did you get them/what are they off of?
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
I have FZ1 mirrors and they stick way out, but when I clip a mirror, they just fold in and I keep on going. My bars are right about where most car mirrors are, and my mirrors are up by the trucks and vans mirrors. These vehicles are wider, so I suppose a lower mirror would clear them more often. Any narrower than that, and I'd worry about catching a bar. My mirrors are the widest thing on the bike, so I use them like a cat uses its whiskers.

Nice mirrors! Buy them at the dealer???

I currently use the 'tuck the elbow in' method if I need to check for the occasional slow-lane officer.
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Just_Nick
This is a very bad way to go about it.
You need those mirrors to be able to check what's going on behind you. In fact, most motorcycle accidents occur while stopped at a stop sign or stop light.
I think he's means while lane splitting. When I'm splitting, my focus is 95% forward; the rear 5% is for other riders who may want to split faster than me.

I can split fine with my bar ends and aftermarket handlebar. Just measured and it's a solid 35". I don't know what stock width is. Exactly how narrow are these lanes?

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Old Aug 9, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Exactly how narrow are these lanes?
Really really narrow, probably 9 feet or less at intersections where they squeezed in turn lanes. On my ride home from work on Friday there were 2 F150s next to one another, both of them were properly centered in their respective lanes. There was only 2-3 feet between them. No way to get ANY motorcycle (or even a mountain bike) thru, regardless of mirror width.
Old Aug 9, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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My mirrors are Yamaha FZ1 mirrors. Hell, I can see what's behind me on the left through my right mirror even. They're that good.

I should get some pictures sometime.
Old Aug 11, 2009 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Reason
I think he's means while lane splitting. When I'm splitting, my focus is 95% forward; the rear 5% is for other riders who may want to split faster than me.

Exactly how narrow are these lanes?
Yes, I was referring to whilst splitting. (we call it 'Filtering' in the UK)

We have really narrow roads in England, so the splitting lane can be quite narrow, just wide enough for mirrors to get through, especially in London.

The worst bike I had for filtering was the 600 Bandit, as the high, wide mirrors were exactly the same height as a small van's. We have a lot of small vans on our roads

Cheers,

Paul.
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