1998 SH VS 2002 FZ1
01-31-2010, 05:14 PM
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1998 SH VS 2002 FZ1
So here is the deal. My buddy has a 2002 FZ1 and just went to motorcycle school to learn to ride. He rides good but I have had two wheels for 20 yrs. SO he has been talking thrash about how fast his bike is. He just got it and about 2 months later I got my SH. I told him look your bike is faster and has more HP; but I will smoke you at the track 1/4 mile. So I am asking you guys on who you think will win? I uderstand that there are 5000 variables but just shoot your opinion. He only has a slip on two brothers. He is a big dude too like 6'2 300. I am 5'11 and 200.
01-31-2010, 07:48 PM
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If he just learned to ride and you're good on your superhawk my money's on you. Equal riders though & the FZ's gonna do a little better in the 1/4 mile-it should it's got 25hp on a superhawk, plus will show bigger gains with mild mods.
01-31-2010, 08:21 PM
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a modern 600 SS is just as fast if not faster down the 1/4 mile, an FZ1 with its fatter torque will destroy the superhawk...
its a detuned R1 engine in there...from what i can find on youtube, it runs low low 11's high 10's
its a detuned R1 engine in there...from what i can find on youtube, it runs low low 11's high 10's
01-31-2010, 09:03 PM
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Should be a good race.
01-31-2010, 09:04 PM
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Yeah, they're a pain to ride on the street and you just have to get used to revving the snot out of them, but, ridden well, they will smoke a VTR.
02-01-2010, 06:44 AM
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20 years of motorcycling doesnt make you a good drag racer...but then again, someone who just took a MSF class is probably not good themselves.
I think the 100lb advantage you have makes up for his hp advantage. Practice some launches and beat his ***.
I think the 100lb advantage you have makes up for his hp advantage. Practice some launches and beat his ***.
02-01-2010, 08:34 AM
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I have to disagree. 600 is same or better HP and weighs considerably less.
Keep that 600 above 9000 rpms and the SH is gonna get its *** whooped all things equal, i.e., rider weight, skill, etc.
02-01-2010, 09:19 AM
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02-01-2010, 09:36 AM
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you seen the 1/4mile times of the modern 600s? 10.6-10.8 in the magazines. I've had a few of my friends rocket into the mid 10s on their 600s....close to stock too. Haven't heard of too many hawks in the mid-10s...or even the high 10s.
02-01-2010, 06:00 PM
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Did some 1/8 mile drag strip racing this past summer against a friend with an r6 and beat him on most runs, but doubt i could beat him in 1/4 mile. My biggest problem was avoiding big wheelies on launchs, "see my pic" Fz1 would be toast on track, with its long wheelbase and high weight.
02-01-2010, 07:12 PM
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I guess thats -2. We all love our hawks but all the guys here that claim modern 600's are "anemic" havn't ridden them, or ridden them well. If you shift them at 3500, yes, they dont do much. But even if you're shifting right around 5 figures they're gunna wax a hawk. The last 600 I rode was an 06 that shares its model name with my Handle and it would have been difficult for anyone on it to get beat by a superhawk.
02-01-2010, 08:27 PM
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Modern 600's weigh less with equal or greater HP than our SHs. They appear to be anemic if ridden like a bike with lots of torque, as with the SH; however, keep the rpms up there in the balcony and it's a completely different ballgame.
02-01-2010, 08:45 PM
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http://www.dragtimes.com/Yamaha-FZ-Timeslip-7383.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Super...slip-7434.html
Hope your buddy's weight throws this off. Don't forget to update this thread when/if you actually run them. Might help with the cabin fever and bench racing.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Super...slip-7434.html
Hope your buddy's weight throws this off. Don't forget to update this thread when/if you actually run them. Might help with the cabin fever and bench racing.
02-02-2010, 03:25 AM
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http://www.dragtimes.com/Yamaha-FZ-Timeslip-7383.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Super...slip-7434.html
Hope your buddy's weight throws this off. Don't forget to update this thread when/if you actually run them. Might help with the cabin fever and bench racing.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Super...slip-7434.html
Hope your buddy's weight throws this off. Don't forget to update this thread when/if you actually run them. Might help with the cabin fever and bench racing.
02-02-2010, 04:29 AM
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The FZ is so much easier to launch. It's wheel base is longer and it will make the same torque as the hawk if launched in the right rev range. I'm with the guys praising the 600's. They'll kick our SH asses if ridden correctly but who wants to ride at WFO throttle all the time. Real world messing around and back road carving, the SH rules. Try to pull an 80mph wheelie on a 600. On a closed road of course.
02-02-2010, 06:00 AM
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http://www.dragtimes.com/Yamaha-FZ-Timeslip-7383.html
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Super...slip-7434.html
Hope your buddy's weight throws this off. Don't forget to update this thread when/if you actually run them. Might help with the cabin fever and bench racing.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Super...slip-7434.html
Hope your buddy's weight throws this off. Don't forget to update this thread when/if you actually run them. Might help with the cabin fever and bench racing.
02-02-2010, 06:14 AM
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Bike for bike both the FZ1 and any new 600 is gonna take the superhawk guys. The superhawk has a STRONG top gear roll on, but just put any of those other bikes in their powerband and it's bye bye. Again it's all down to the riders though. Rickey Gadson broke into the NINES with a stock R6 (they lowered it and changed the sprocket 1 tooth) a few years back. But none of us are Rickey Gadson. I'd love to see him ride a stock superhawk for the hell of it. Until then I think the 10.83/127.32 from motorcycle.com is gonna have to do-it's by far the quickest and fastest time I've ever seen for a superhawk. Two different riders changes everything though. Hell years back I remember racing a brand new viper with my stock '72 corvette. He tried and tried and couldn't pull on me. He said "wow that's fast" I so "no you need to learn how to drive." Go race him already and let us know what happens. Then switch bikes and let us know how that goes.
02-02-2010, 06:27 AM
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I seem to recall CW getting a 10.78 on a 97 SH, along with 3.5 second roll-on times for 60-80 and 80-100 (or was that for 50-70 and 70-90?).....
02-02-2010, 07:54 AM
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And sorry I like my old magazines...
