close calls vid......camber is definitely a factor in terms of how much traction can be achieved, but if you're referring to the ***-end sliding out, it looks like too much throttle for the lean angle and speed. Keith Code deals with the issue of how there is only a finite amount of contact patch traction/grip and this is dictated by lean angle,speed, braking, and acceleration forces. In other words, leaning, speed, braking, and acceleration all use up pieces of the contact pie and when one or more is exceeded, things start to come unraveled.

It can get somewhat complicated, but when you're on the edge of your tire at speed and traction is near maxed out, any little inputs relative to brakes, throttle, lean in, body or steering movements, etc., can be enough to ruin your day. These guys were maxed out in terms of lean and speed(effectively not much of the contact pie left) and when they added or maintained throttle before reducing lean angle, the traction pie was exceeded.

A change in camber maybe, but when you listen to the sounds of their engines, it appears that throttle exuberance, over-confidence, or just having a little too much fun was responsible for traction loss.

 

that guy must be embarrased to have his videos all over the web

 

Well back in the day.... as the kids would say....when I lived in SoCal the corner in these video was named "Squids Leap" and yes we used to sit and watch from the overlook back then also.

Like was stated in an earlier post, if you go over the guard rail, it is a long ways down....

In fact they used to find a body at the bottom of it every couple of years or so.

The corner has a couple things that will catch you out if you are not paying attention.

The first is that there is usually a fine layer of dust on the corner. The second is that is goes a bit off camber on the exit (this is where most people run into problems and why there are so many high side videos on that site) add to that the fact that some people tend to tense up when they see the guard rail because from the bike all you can see is air..... and you end up with what you see on those videos.

Now with the crowd there, the urge to show off really adds to the number of crashes.

So in reality, most of the crashes are people riding over their head because of the cameras.....

 

After watching that video I think there may have been a few people I would have had to follow and slap some common sense into. After riding that rode several times though it is generally the cleanest and most sweeping corner and personally due to the people and cameras there everyone trys to show off a bit and what not. I generally take it easy on that corner the tighter ones that follow are more fun anyways.