Inflation deflation
#1
Inflation deflation
Spent some time fabing a housing for an older 12V air pump that I removed from it's case. The idea was to make it more compact for carry on the bike. Got it done, realized that I hadn't tested the hose. Clamped it on, and surprise, it leaks.
Have a smaller 12V air pump that I have been carrying in my truck. Removed the pump from the housing. Much more compact. So now I get to make another housing.
Here is the first one.
Have a smaller 12V air pump that I have been carrying in my truck. Removed the pump from the housing. Much more compact. So now I get to make another housing.
Here is the first one.
#3
So far I have not had a flat. Currently I'm carrying CO2 and puncture repair kit. The pump setup will be for a trip I'm planning for next summer. Trying to cover my bases when very far from home.
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I figure with some planning I can pack 50 or so all over the bike. If I remove the coolant overflow I could put a case between the cylinders. Would that do it? It's OK if they get really hot. right?
#9
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...XG0FN8TXH6WM20
It is still lighter, smaller and faster to inflate than your compressor.
One thing I have found with small air compressors, like you have pictured, is they sometimes cannot even provide 30psi. And if they get anywhere near that, it takes an hour or more, draining your battery in the process.
If you believe your compressor will work for this application, release the pressure from one of your tires and try to fill it before your trip. You might be suprised.
#10
I think Smomin' might be thinking of the small BB gun Co2 cartridges, like what is used with mountain bikes. You can get larger paint ball gun sized cartridges, where just one will fill a motorcycle tire. Let me see if I can find something....here, I believe this is what I'm talking about
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...XG0FN8TXH6WM20
It is still lighter, smaller and faster to inflate than your compressor.
One thing I have found with small air compressors, like you have pictured, is they sometimes cannot even provide 30psi. And if they get anywhere near that, it takes an hour or more, draining your battery in the process.
If you believe your compressor will work for this application, release the pressure from one of your tires and try to fill it before your trip. You might be suprised.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...XG0FN8TXH6WM20
It is still lighter, smaller and faster to inflate than your compressor.
One thing I have found with small air compressors, like you have pictured, is they sometimes cannot even provide 30psi. And if they get anywhere near that, it takes an hour or more, draining your battery in the process.
If you believe your compressor will work for this application, release the pressure from one of your tires and try to fill it before your trip. You might be suprised.
I don't like surprises.
#11
I have one that is the innards of a regular compressor, but sadly I cant find it in my garage.
Had a flat last week so keep this little slime compressor with me daily. Fits under the seat. Plugs into the outlet on my dash or in my topcase.
Oh and yes crux I was thinking of the small co2.
I've been stranded by flats more than 12 times and had the dynaplug with me. It simply didn't do the job due to how tiny the plug is and that for a real hole you need several next to each other.
In many different weather conditions it simply will not seal the tire. (the next plug pushes the previous out).
I am going to look for the bigger co2. Any recommendations?
The compressor has worked on many varied strandings.
Had a flat last week so keep this little slime compressor with me daily. Fits under the seat. Plugs into the outlet on my dash or in my topcase.
Oh and yes crux I was thinking of the small co2.
I've been stranded by flats more than 12 times and had the dynaplug with me. It simply didn't do the job due to how tiny the plug is and that for a real hole you need several next to each other.
In many different weather conditions it simply will not seal the tire. (the next plug pushes the previous out).
I am going to look for the bigger co2. Any recommendations?
The compressor has worked on many varied strandings.
Last edited by smokinjoe73; 11-11-2016 at 06:36 AM.
#12
I will post the results of the test. You have me concerned the the CO2 cartridges, even multiples, will fill the tire enough.
#13
I bought 2 dozen 16g co2 cartridges and 2 inflation housings when I first thought they could save me. Imagine the fun of being roadside at 4am on the Manhattan bridge watching the co2 empty and the tire still 90% flat.
That's why I started carrying the compressor. Its not super fast, but it works. I would let the bike idle while using it though. You don't want to kill your battery.
That's why I started carrying the compressor. Its not super fast, but it works. I would let the bike idle while using it though. You don't want to kill your battery.
#15
The issue becomes if you have a leak and have to attempt a second repair or get a second flat before resupply.. do you have another 3 cartridges ..I solved that by carrying 6 total on hand. Replacements can be had at any REI store, many other places as well. I keep extras at the house, and or send some to a pre staged location on long trips. For me, the inflator head and 6 20 gram cartridges is more convenient and useful than a pump would be... I can distribute and store the pieces in small otherwise unseeable/unsuitable locations for normal storage...
CO2 is temp sensitive, so perhaps they will not work in very cold environments, not sure only tested down to 60 deg. And if you had a tire with a lot more volume than the VTR stock sized rear it may not be worth it.
#16
I have tested and used Genuine Innovations Air Chuck Elite CO2 inflator and three 20 gram cartridges to inflate a rear tire to high 20s ( 3 ea 20 gram got me to 27 psi last time used)
The issue becomes if you have a leak and have to attempt a second repair or get a second flat before resupply.. do you have another 3 cartridges ..I solved that by carrying 6 total on hand. Replacements can be had at any REI store, many other places as well. I keep extras at the house, and or send some to a pre staged location on long trips. For me, the inflator head and 6 20 gram cartridges is more convenient and useful than a pump would be... I can distribute and store the pieces in small otherwise unseeable/unsuitable locations for normal storage...
CO2 is temp sensitive, so perhaps they will not work in very cold environments, not sure only tested down to 60 deg. And if you had a tire with a lot more volume than the VTR stock sized rear it may not be worth it.
The issue becomes if you have a leak and have to attempt a second repair or get a second flat before resupply.. do you have another 3 cartridges ..I solved that by carrying 6 total on hand. Replacements can be had at any REI store, many other places as well. I keep extras at the house, and or send some to a pre staged location on long trips. For me, the inflator head and 6 20 gram cartridges is more convenient and useful than a pump would be... I can distribute and store the pieces in small otherwise unseeable/unsuitable locations for normal storage...
CO2 is temp sensitive, so perhaps they will not work in very cold environments, not sure only tested down to 60 deg. And if you had a tire with a lot more volume than the VTR stock sized rear it may not be worth it.
I like that this one threads on the the valve stem. Wet, cold, dark, tired, on the side of a busy road, I need no help in making errors.
Thanks for your input. The results I achieved were about half what you had. Had a couple of 16 gram cartridges that I tested. First one I accidentally vented some gas. Starting from 0 psi in the tire, only gave 2 psi. The second starting from zero again, gave 4psi.
3 1/2 min and 22psi. Did not check battery voltage before, but after it was 12.85V. In a real situation I would have had the motor running.
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